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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 16 May 2005 : 15:29:05
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If I am in a campaign where the fatality rate is high, Cleric. Everyone keeps the cleric alive as the cleric keep everyone else alive.
If I am in a campaign where the fatality rate is low, Rogue. The rogue as the ability to insinuate himself into almost any situation and have a little fun.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2005 : 17:33:52
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When I'm setting up a new character as part of a group thing (which hasn't happened in far too long  ), I generally try to make sure that we're going to have some sort of balance. However, even given that, I still try to avoid single-classed clerics. |
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2005 : 17:50:00
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| I picked rogue....i dont know why. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2005 : 21:52:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
When I'm setting up a new character as part of a group thing (which hasn't happened in far too long ), I generally try to make sure that we're going to have some sort of balance. However, even given that, I still try to avoid single-classed clerics.
In 3.x the single class cleric rocks. Given a few moments he can boost the party and himself, and join the melee as a slightly lower level fighter. They have the HP the AC and the +to hit. They have the healing spells, and summoning spells, as well as the clerical fireball Flame Strike. I'll say it again Clerics Rock!
But you always have those tithing issues, and must obey the church, so there are some restrictions on what you can and can't do, and you have all of these little ceremonies, but in the end, you have a heck of a support system as well. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2005 : 22:46:20
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With my (now dead) dwarven cleric, I spent most of my time buffing, making sure the fighters could keep fighting, and occasionally summoning a critter so that the barbarian/Rogue or Swashbuckler/Rogue could flank. In dire circumstances I could let a foe taste a bit of dwarven steel with my War Axe (“Of course it’s a Dwarven war axe, you think Elves invented the axe? *pfah*”)
Heh, I just remembered something. While running a game, the party was in the foot hills of the Spine of the World and had come across a roving party of frost giants with their Frost Giant/Half Red Dragon leader. They came up on the camp at night, but found that they had a large group of “Frost Wolves” (Winter Wolves, but only as clever as a dog) guarding the camp. Despite the fact that the group had the firepower to do some serious kung-fu, they were wise enough to know that this combined group of Giants would be deadly, combined with the Wolves.
The Cleric in the party came up with an idea, though. She decided to summon a critter; specifically, she asked if she could have a frost leopard. Since it’s pretty much the same thing as other things on the list, and was climate specific, I let her have it. The plan was to have the cat run past the camp and the wolves would chase it.
However, others in the party pointed out that trained guard dogs might not run out of the camp, even if it was a cat. So, they had to come up with some way to make the cat more appealing to the wolves. So, the cleric, who was a Halfling and of Yondalla, moved away from the camp, and pointed out that she had just killed a rothe for food, and the meat was fresh, and that she also had some flour. She spent an hour cooking, summoned the leopard…
and then covered it in gravy.
The leopard goes racing past the wolves, who go freakin’ nuts, (The plan worked really well because I knew that the giants were having food problems, and this was a hunting party. The giants ate first, and the wolves just got scraps. The wolves were starving.) Wolves chase the cat out of the camp, and the party descends on the giant camp like wraiths, until they trigger an alarm spell.
It’s a tough battle, and the mage nearly died, but eventually the party emerges victorious. After a quick search of the camp, taking the best treasures, the leave before the wolves can return.
later that night, when the cleric goes to sleep, she’s given a vision: A giggling servant of Yondalla, with a sour looking leopard licking itself and shooting daggers out of it’s eyes informs the cleric that, while it was a good plan, make sure to drop off a nice donation at the next temple of Sharess she comes across.
Clerics are so much fun!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2005 : 23:10:48
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Originally posted by Jindael
She spent an hour cooking, summoned the leopard…
and then covered it in gravy.
That is a great story! 
But... I've nothing against clerics. They simply don't appeal to me. It's the same with halflings and gnomes: I have nothing against them, I just don't have an interest in playing them. |
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jebeddo
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 17 May 2005 : 02:19:57
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But... I've nothing against clerics. They simply don't appeal to me. It's the same with halflings and gnomes: I have nothing against them, I just don't have an interest in playing them.
Hmm... maybe I should do a "favorite race" poll next time!
My favorite class is the wizard, generalist. Specialist wizards are fun to play, but their weaknesses often get them killed. Human is, of course, the best race to play wizards with, since they get an extra feat at 1st level. The next best race, the elves, are too prone to death since they have -2 to con to a wizard's already pitiful hit dice. |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2005 : 03:05:09
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A discordian Pixie.
Wow.
Just...
Wow.
Hail Eris, All hail Discordia! And Puck!
And the mental image of a pixie sneaking off every friday to partake of a plain hot dog is just great. heheh.
Us pixies are very strict about our observances of the Original Snub |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2005 : 05:12:59
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Originally posted by jebeddo
Hmm... maybe I should do a "favorite race" poll next time!
I considered that, as I made my comment. But there's too many choices for a single poll... Unless you left it wide open and discussion only, there would be a lot of races left off. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2005 : 05:58:23
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| make it a "Favorite Core FR race from the FRCS" then. :p |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2005 : 06:14:22
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I hope that is not the case.
The last thing we need here at Candlekeep is a swarm of scrolls dedicated to "Foundations of ..... " for the races of the Realms...  .
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2005 : 11:31:45
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Originally posted by Jindael
make it a "Favorite Core FR race from the FRCS" then. :p
That would still be too many -- planetouched, the different flavors of elves, halfings, gnomes, and dwarves... There's a good score of races right there. |
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costaran
Acolyte
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Posted - 19 May 2005 : 14:10:01
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Certainly cleric. Because the spells give a variety of bonuses: Luck, enchantment, divine, deflection...
Good damage spells such as harm, destruction, implosion...
No spell failure from armor and unlike arcane magic you have access to all spells.
And the advantage of spontaneous healing... |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2005 : 18:49:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
I hope that is not the case.
The last thing we need here at Candlekeep is a swarm of scrolls dedicated to "Foundations of ..... " for the races of the Realms... .
When I first went to those Other boards, I actually joined the elven foundation, under the impression that we would be discussing elves, various prestige classes for elves, unique elven lifestyle and adventuring choices, etc.
Of course, it devolved into “Elves vrs [insert any other race] and thankfully they were removed. But, the concept (or, more to the point, MY concept) of what the “foundations” were supposed to be sounded like a good idea really; multiple minds brainstorming about a race.
Candlekeep is far to cozy, however, to divide it’s members up like that. ^_^
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2005 : 22:34:15
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Candlekeep is far to cozy, however, to divide it’s members up like that. ^_^
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2005 : 22:38:22
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Originally posted by Jindael
Candlekeep is far to cozy, however, to divide it’s members up like that. ^_^
Well met
Aye, make sure thou art indeed cosy, Jindael, for thou shalt be sat there on that stool penning scrolls of lore for some time to come
I wonder when I get promoted to "guy whose stool has a cushion"? (I thought I had a cushion once I hit 100 posts, but it ended up being a space hamster. Comfy, but noisy.)
^_^
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2005 : 23:49:09
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Originally posted by Jindael
I wonder when I get promoted to "guy whose stool has a cushion"? (I thought I had a cushion once I hit 100 posts, but it ended up being a space hamster. Comfy, but noisy.)
^_^
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jebeddo
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 22 May 2005 : 23:20:07
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| Hmm...finally wizards have more votes than everything else. I knew wizards will finally trimuph! (I mean, with the fireballs and ice storms, who would choose anything else?) |
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Songrimm
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 02:55:55
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Now, i know this class is not mentioned in the poll but i like psion best. psion is imo the most versatile class. you can choose your "spells" like a sorcerer but use them more freely because of psp. with the right powers a psion can become a replacement for any other class.
just my two cents. |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 05:50:36
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Now, i know this class is not mentioned in the poll but i like psion best. psion is imo the most versatile class. you can choose your "spells" like a sorcerer but use them more freely because of psp. with the right powers a psion can become a replacement for any other class.
just my two cents.
In the realms the only race that I know of which has that inborn ability are the illithids (mind flayers) and one of the darkelf houses in Menzoberranzan. Some scribes would dispute whether a psion can become a class on its own since it seems to be race specific. For me, I would certainly think that a psion is more like a racial or genetically inherited ability rather than a class. |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 07:20:42
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Originally posted by Lina
In the realms the only race that I know of which has that inborn ability are the illithids (mind flayers) and one of the darkelf houses in Menzoberranzan. Some scribes would dispute whether a psion can become a class on its own since it seems to be race specific. For me, I would certainly think that a psion is more like a racial or genetically inherited ability rather than a class.
I don't think that being born with psionic abilities prohibits it from being a class. Look at the sorcerer class, the arcane magic is something that is born into them but it is still a class.
Yuan-ti are also another psionic race in the realms as well as gem dragons and a few others mentioned in canon sources. |
Edited by - Chosen of Bane on 23 May 2005 07:21:49 |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 14:48:36
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Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
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Originally posted by Lina
In the realms the only race that I know of which has that inborn ability are the illithids (mind flayers) and one of the darkelf houses in Menzoberranzan. Some scribes would dispute whether a psion can become a class on its own since it seems to be race specific. For me, I would certainly think that a psion is more like a racial or genetically inherited ability rather than a class.
I don't think that being born with psionic abilities prohibits it from being a class. Look at the sorcerer class, the arcane magic is something that is born into them but it is still a class.
Yuan-ti are also another psionic race in the realms as well as gem dragons and a few others mentioned in canon sources.
Not to mention that the main character (and his mentor) in the House of Serpents-trilogy both are psionicists. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 17:28:12
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Anyone can learn to unlock the laten psionic powers that exist in every intelligent creature.
Some creatures have the ability 'bred' into them so it comes more easily, hence the 'naturally psionic' trait of races like half-giants, duergar, etc etc |
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Songrimm
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 02:08:53
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And in leof there is mentioned a god for psionics. dont remember his name at the moment. so surely he had some followers with psionic classes.
but if psion is not allowed i ll vote for sorcerer or cleric. always loved those spell-slingers. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 04:03:20
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Originally posted by Songrimm
And in leof there is mentioned a god for psionics. dont remember his name at the moment. so surely he had some followers with psionic classes.
but if psion is not allowed i ll vote for sorcerer or cleric. always loved those spell-slingers.
Auppenser, who is now mostly dead. |
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Prince Forge of Avalon
Learned Scribe
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 08:08:06
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Wooly,
Where is Auppenser listed in FR sources? Just curious Thx.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 11:22:21
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Wooly,
Where is Auppenser listed in FR sources? Just curious Thx.
PFoA
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 22:28:28
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Originally posted by jebeddo
The purpose for this poll is basically to convince my DM to let me play the fourth wizard in our party of six. Yes, there's four wizards, the other two are a cleric and a druid (yes, we're so dead). One might comment on the need for fighters to complement our abilities, but we have two conjurers (hopefully they won't memorize melf's acid arrow instead of monster summoning II)!
A good Cleric with the right spells, can out fight any Fighter of the same level (not counting feats).
Divine Favor and Divine Power are two favorites. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 22:36:11
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I almost always play an Elven Cleric that tends to multi-class into the more martial classes (fighter/paladin/ranger), in 3E rules. My clerics are front line fighters, using their magic to enhance their combat abilities.
In 1st Edition and 2nd Edition, tended to play Elven multi-classed Cleric/Fighter/Mages or Cleric/Fighter/Thieves, also have a few Cleric/Fighter/Mage/Thieves, talk about slow advancement
In 1E and 2E I just loved being the JoAT of the party, and was really sad in a few sessions where I made the dedicated spellcasters look like buffoons. |
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