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Kuje
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Posted - 08 Dec 2004 :  05:22:42  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The Chalice of the Serpents, part one:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rl/20041208a

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Hymn
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Claws his way up the walls. "Want more now, now NOW" Interesting article for sure. Has this old mysterious feeling over it somehow. And then I am not aiming at the talk about the god being older then Netheril

Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.

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Wooly Rupert
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Of course they'd update the page after I went to bed...

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Reefy
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Posted - 08 Dec 2004 :  12:55:48  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Of course they'd update the page after I went to bed...



They did actually watch and wait for you to nod off, you know.


And very interesting article, I like the fact it's in the Western Heratlands because that is the area I'm really craving at the moment.

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quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Of course they'd update the page after I went to bed...



They did actually watch and wait for you to nod off, you know.




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VEDSICA
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Posted - 08 Dec 2004 :  19:33:08  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
HMMMM.Intriguing to say the least.Can't wait for the next installment.Thanks Kuje!!!

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Faraer
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Resonates with subject matter I'm reading up on at the moment in books like Ricky Jay's Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 19 Jan 2005 :  20:54:44  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Part II of The Chalice of Serpents is now up.
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Wooly Rupert
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Of course, they would wait to update until I was at work... And they did it with Realmslore, too, the Bane-spawn!

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Dargoth
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Posted - 19 Jan 2005 :  23:12:33  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm interesting but perhaps Not as interesting as next months

The next installment of this column will commence a brief exploration of the Black Mysteries -- that is, particulars about the Order of the Black Flame that remain mysterious to all who don't happen to be Order members.

Now this is pure Gold!

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jan 2005 :  05:15:18  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... Interesting. I appreciate the URL Sirius .

The Black Mysteries sounds rather intriguing as well. I Can't wait.

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George Krashos
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If it's the Order of the Black Flame I'm thinking about (and it may well not be given that Ed likes to double up on things to keep everyone confused!) it was first mentioned in Ed's Athalantar article in Dragon#228 and was a mages cabal from Unther. But that article said they were defunct from the early 200s DR ... probably a different Black Flame organisation.

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 21 Jan 2005 :  00:19:56  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quite possibly, Ed is going to speak of the Order of the Black Flame dedicated to Kossuth (adherents of which sometimes possess levels in the Black Flame Zealot prestige class; see Unapproachable East).
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

If it's the Order of the Black Flame I'm thinking about (and it may well not be given that Ed likes to double up on things to keep everyone confused!) it was first mentioned in Ed's Athalantar article in Dragon#228 and was a mages cabal from Unther. But that article said they were defunct from the early 200s DR ... probably a different Black Flame organisation.

-- George Krashos


Hmmm... I don't remember that particular article. I must've missed that issue .

George, if Ed's next Realmslore column does indeed detail a different Black Flame organisation, can I ask you to summarise the main details of the article you mentioned and send them over to me? They sound particularly useful for an idea I've had on the backburner for a while now...

If it's too much trouble, just let me know and I'll try and secure the details some other way .

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George Krashos
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It's probably not the same "Black Flame" in hindsight but for your project, here's the reference from Dragon #228:

229 DR: Year of the Black Flame
A cabal of wizards calling themselves "The Black Flame" forms in Unther and destroys several armies sent by local rulers to slay them. Over the 20 summers that follow, they develop many important magics, but dwindle in numbers. destroyed by rivals or lost in travels to other planes. They leave behind many powerful spells that later form much of the arsenal of the Red Wizards of Thay.

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Kentinal
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"but dwindle in numbers. destroyed by rivals or lost in travels to other planes. They leave behind many powerful spells that later form much of the arsenal of the Red Wizards of Thay."

At least allows for a few to keep order going, though certainly would have been hidden as ranks disappeared from being visable.

Odds are better though a new order arose and took the name from legend.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 22 Jan 2005 :  02:17:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A large and bearded bird tells me Garen Thal is correct.
Three columns on this topic, I think.
Then . . . a big and wonderful 'meaty' topic, if my guess isn't mistaken (Nimbral length 'big').
love to all,
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

A large and bearded bird tells me Garen Thal is correct.


A bird, huh? Can this bird land on a telephone pole and tuck its head under its wing?

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Three columns on this topic, I think.
Then . . . a big and wonderful 'meaty' topic, if my guess isn't mistaken (Nimbral length 'big').
love to all,
THO



Nimbral length? Oooh...

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Dargoth
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Now if Ed can just slip some more atricles on Faeruns Paladin and Monk orders ill be really happy

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Three columns on this topic, I think.
Then . . . a big and wonderful 'meaty' topic, if my guess isn't mistaken (Nimbral length 'big').
love to all,
THO



Nimbral length? Oooh...


I agree. I'll double that first Oooh with another, and then support it with a Mmmm... .



quote:
Now if Ed can just slip some more atricles on Faeruns Paladin and Monk orders ill be really happy.
A little something on both would be nice, I agree. However, if I really had to choose, I'd prefer some details on the various druidic orders across the Realms.

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Wooly Rupert
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The Black Mysteries, Part One is up, only a week after the previous offering!

We also have another Adventure Locale. The Steaming Demon feels like another of the "hey, here's a token reference to the Realms, so it's a Realms article!" ones.

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SiriusBlack
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
We also have another Adventure Locale. The Steaming Demon feels like another of the "hey, here's a token reference to the Realms, so it's a Realms article!" ones.



Just a bit...
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Black Mysteries, Part One is up, only a week after the previous offering!

I loved it . Simply another fine offering from the quill of the Master of Realmslore. As well, the next part sounds even more intriguing...

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The Black Mysteries, Part Two is up. Wow, that was a quick reload...

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Reefy
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Black Mysteries, Part Two is up. Wow, that was a quick reload...




No kidding. And no complaints from this scribe either. My mind is already starting to wander down different paths thinking what fun I could unleash with such combustibles...

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Black Mysteries, Part Two is up. Wow, that was a quick reload...


... Wow, that was fast. Not that I'm complaining of course . This sub-series is coming along rather nicely actually. And the symbology for the Order is up next... Neato .


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The Black Mysteries, Part Three is up. A one week turn-around, again...

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Reefy
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Black Mysteries, Part Three is up. A one week turn-around, again...



This is good, do you think this is going to be typical of things to come for a while? I do hope so...

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quote:
Originally posted by Reefy

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Black Mysteries, Part Three is up. A one week turn-around, again...



This is good, do you think this is going to be typical of things to come for a while? I do hope so...



It would certainly be nice, so long as Ed has the time to keep articles in the queue.

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Dargoth
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

A large and bearded bird tells me Garen Thal is correct.
Three columns on this topic, I think.
Then . . . a big and wonderful 'meaty' topic, if my guess isn't mistaken (Nimbral length 'big').
love to all,
THO



well weve had our 3 order of the Black Flame articles.......


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The Sage
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That's right. There doesn't seem to be any more coming . I wonder what is next?

You still talking to that large, bearded bird Garen?



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