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Dargoth
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 19 May 2004 : 02:41:27
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Looks wicked to me, some kind of Katar, or Tiger Claw I guess. (Think I got the terms right  Luckily their isn't any import restrictions in FR, well Cormyr is a little touchy but ... |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 02:50:07
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| Hmm... isn't a tiger claw the weapon that goes on top of your hand and delivers slashing attacks? This weapon seems to be designed more for thrusting. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 02:55:54
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Its looks ornamental to me
While it looks impressive you wouldnt want to be wielding it if your opponent manged to get his weapons beteen the blades...mangled fingers, there isnt a Hand guard
As for using it Id say its a stabbing weapon it looks like some youd try and thrust into your opponents chest or abdomen |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:02:05
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Its looks ornamental to me
While it looks impressive you wouldnt want to be wielding it if your opponent manged to get his weapons beteen the blades...mangled fingers, there is a Hand guard
As for using it Id say its a stabbing weapon it looks like some youd try and thrust into your opponents chest or abdomen
Yeah, I agree... It almost looks like something a Star Trek Klingon would have. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:12:01
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| Would make a nice weapon for a monk of the Long Death though |
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Sachiel
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:12:15
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A nasty weapon indeed. It's an even nastier thought imagining what type of damage such a blade configuration could do  .
Wooly Rupert is right though, it is similar in design and shape to the second generation Klingon blades which were based on the earlier "d'targh" designs from the original series. Unfortunately I cannot find an image to link to, in order to compare both weapons.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:18:44
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My favorite part of the story:
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Victorian Customs regional director Jenny Peachey said buyers should not assume anything could be imported if bought on the internet
Right up there with, "What do you mean my account has no money left? I still have checks in my checkbook."  |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:24:25
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
My favorite part of the story:
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Victorian Customs regional director Jenny Peachey said buyers should not assume anything could be imported if bought on the internet
Right up there with, "What do you mean my account has no money left? I still have checks in my checkbook."
No the more amusing comment is this
"Knives and other weapons are restricted imports," Ms Peachey said. "A permit to import a restricted item can be applied for prior to importation."
ie The weapon was confiscated not because it was a banned weapon but because the right forms hadnt been filled in |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:26:25
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| If I was a weaponsmith.I would put a handgaurd on it,with another,smaller blade coming off that.I'd also make the outer two blades so that it can be used as a slashing weapon as well. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 03:29:29
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Originally posted by Dargoth
ie The weapon was confiscated not because it was a banned weapon but because the right forms hadnt been filled in
Beware the paper pushers, they will unleash Bane style anger on you if you don't check the right boxes on their forms. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 04:02:15
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| There doesnt seem to be anything in the PHB or the Arms and Equipment guide that resembles that weapon...... |
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Sachiel
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 04:07:20
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Some of the GRR books present some nasty looking weaponry. Perhaps you should look through those.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 04:12:47
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It seems like a strange weapon for gang crime. Like you said, a cow to wield. It looks more like someone was trying to add to his fantasy-weapon collection.
Of course, I can only say that based on the picture. I don't have any idea of who purchased it. But I think the person who wrote that article was trying to be sensational. After all, the person who ordered it was let off with a warning. If it had really been intended "for the streets" then surely the Customs officials wouldn't have been so easy on him/her. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 04:32:28
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Yeah the Australian media have a thing for weapons
In the mid 90s a raving lunatic went on a killing spree down in Tasmania and after it happaned the media went into full Hysteria mode and got the goverment to pretty much ban guns.
What the media conviently didnt mention was that they guy who did the shooting was a well known fruit cake and had he been put in a nice padded room instead of being allowed out on the streets then the masacare would have never occured.
Amusingly enough a mob war has broken out in Melbourne about 12-18 months ago and most of victims have been killed with weapons that where banned by the goverment in 1996 ie Banning guns is completely ineffective because if some one really wants one they'll find a way.
Signed Dargoth
A disgruntled former licenced gun owner
PS we should probably get back on topic as my rant is not really FR related |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2004 : 06:06:30
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If I had to slap it in a category, I'd go with punch dagger. Some of the more elaborate katars scissored open with three blades. They were designed for the wielder to stab their opponent and then squeeze the grip in a specific fashion in order to cause the blade to scissor open inside the opponent's body and then be pulled out for a large exit wound.
Here's one of the scissoring kind from history:
http://www.ec21.com/co/r/realantique/product.html?grp=GC00003990&cid=CA00016344
This particular "knife" is essentially a very ornamental and inefective double bladed punch dagger.
I say inefective because due to the absolute lack of protection for the wielder's hand it is obvious that it was not designed with the thought of fighting another armed opponent. A blade trapped between the two blades of this knife would simply slice off a few fingers. If it is designed for fighting an unarmed opponent, a simple short sword would be far easier to wield and more effective.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2004 : 06:49:25
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All I can say is, more people should be taught to use guns. Then they respect them as the killing machines they are, rather than treat them as a) evil creations of Satan, or b) toys.
Now, as to this weapon in D&D, I think it wouldn't be pretty realistic. Though, if you reshaped it somewhat . . . a large, slashing blade on the outside edge, and a hand guard, perhaps. Then it might be better. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2004 : 17:07:38
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| What the...?! This weapon looks like a backstab tiger claw. What kind of less minded people would take this? It can be useful in stealth attacks, but, i don't like the back fighting, i don't know if you know what i mean. I think is uncomfortable to be drinking in a tabern and suddenly, you've got a nice weird knife in your back. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 May 2004 : 11:10:59
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There have actually been several other 'home-made' weapons uncovered since Dargoth posted this link. There are no images however, just descriptions.
From these descriptions, I think what the Bookwyrm said earlier about this person "adding to his fantasy-weapon collection" may hold some measure of truth. From these descriptions, I've determined that two katars, a kurki-styled blade, and a sickle all appear to have been forged in standard homemade fashion and uncovered as part of this cache. There was also several long blades (with no handles) and two short sword style blades found in a waste disposal unit several blocks from the first cache.
Disturbing no...? 
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 07:07:58
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Originally posted by The Sage
Disturbing no...?
Frankly, not really. But then again, I live in Fresno, California where grenades and automatic weapons are confiscated so often that they don't make the news.
Here's a quote regarding stuff found raiding Fresnan pot growers:
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In Fresno County, authorities recently found a grenade with a trip wire strapped to a propane tank. Law enforcement has confiscated semiautomatic weapons, night-vision binoculars, and bulletproof vests from growers.
Here's a quote about our Violent Crime Suppression Unit (a SWAT team that patrols the streets):
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“On one such evening, three squads of ten police officers in combat boots, black jumpsuits, military helmets and bulletproof vests lock and load their Heckler & Koch MP-54 submachine guns (the same weapons used by the elite Navy SEALs) and fan out through the neighborhood... Since 1994 the VCSU has patrolled this city’s have-not suburbs in full military gear, with automatic assault rifles at the ready. Backed by two helicopters with infrared scopes and an Army-surplus armored personnel carrier, the unit is also equipped with attack dogs, smoke bombs, tear gas, pepper spray, metal clubs and less-than-lethal ‘blunt trauma’ projectiles.”
The Nation
“SWAT Nation”
May 31, 1999
So, yeah, a funny looking knife and a few other bladed weapons really isn't too disturbing.
Can't beat living in the land of the free and the brave, eh?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 07:40:10
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Lysander
Learned Scribe
USA
183 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2004 : 14:29:37
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Yeah the Australian media have a thing for weapons
In the mid 90s a raving lunatic went on a killing spree down in Tasmania and after it happaned the media went into full Hysteria mode and got the goverment to pretty much ban guns.
[Trimmed]
Signed Dargoth
A disgruntled former licenced gun owner
PS we should probably get back on topic as my rant is not really FR related
I started my Australian sojourn right around the Port Arthur incident, and the banning, and thought it was utterly ironic that the first gold medal won in the '96 Olympics for Australia was in ... shooting. I forget the poor bloke's name, but he got off the airplane with the rifle and the gold medal, and I believe they sawed the barrel off of it right there on the tarmac.
That 'weapon' has got to be something to hang on the wall (though why anyone would want ir over a nice "ceremonial" sword, I don't know). If used in combat, they'd get the appelation "The corpse of . . ." unless circumstances were unearthly/unTorilianly(is that a word? ) in their favor. . . .
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2004 : 15:11:33
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Originally posted by Sarta
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Disturbing no...?
Frankly, not really. But then again, I live in Fresno, California where grenades and automatic weapons are confiscated so often that they don't make the news.
Here's a quote regarding stuff found raiding Fresnan pot growers:
quote:
In Fresno County, authorities recently found a grenade with a trip wire strapped to a propane tank. Law enforcement has confiscated semiautomatic weapons, night-vision binoculars, and bulletproof vests from growers.
Here's a quote about our Violent Crime Suppression Unit (a SWAT team that patrols the streets):
quote:
“On one such evening, three squads of ten police officers in combat boots, black jumpsuits, military helmets and bulletproof vests lock and load their Heckler & Koch MP-54 submachine guns (the same weapons used by the elite Navy SEALs) and fan out through the neighborhood... Since 1994 the VCSU has patrolled this city’s have-not suburbs in full military gear, with automatic assault rifles at the ready. Backed by two helicopters with infrared scopes and an Army-surplus armored personnel carrier, the unit is also equipped with attack dogs, smoke bombs, tear gas, pepper spray, metal clubs and less-than-lethal ‘blunt trauma’ projectiles.”
The Nation
“SWAT Nation”
May 31, 1999
So, yeah, a funny looking knife and a few other bladed weapons really isn't too disturbing.
Can't beat living in the land of the free and the brave, eh?
Sarta
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 15:13:09
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| I've got a Star!!!! It looks nice, doesn't it? |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 15:15:35
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| D'you know if the blades are from toledo??? |
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"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2004 : 15:56:46
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Originally posted by Gion
I've got a Star!!!! It looks nice, doesn't it?
Yes, it does. I like the color of your star as well. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 16:19:02
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Originally posted by The Sage
Indeed it does, now try and work your way up to five of them...
I've every intention of getting all five stars, meself... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 16:23:25
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I've every intention of getting all five stars, meself...
Might have to aim higher...I recall seeing a post where stars beyond five were alluded to as a possibility. |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 01:51:57
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Its looks ornamental to me
While it looks impressive you wouldnt want to be wielding it if your opponent manged to get his weapons beteen the blades...mangled fingers, there is a Hand guard
As for using it Id say its a stabbing weapon it looks like some youd try and thrust into your opponents chest or abdomen
Yeah, I agree... It almost looks like something a Star Trek Klingon would have.
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 01:54:01
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Originally posted by The Sage
Indeed it does, now try and work your way up to five of them...
For some reason the 'spam song' is running thru the brain and I DON'T like monty python. (has something to do with a friend who ticked me off on a bad night with quoting the frellin' thing!  
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