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SuperWiz
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Posted - 19 Aug 2020 :  12:32:04  Show Profile Send SuperWiz a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello all. New member here. I am running a campaign in Cormyr for 5th edition D&D and wanted to join the site.

The group I DM for has finally made their way to the Stonelands after being offered the Baron title if they can tame it. I read up on the area and found out about the mercenary companies. Currently the party is fighting against The Neidlig goblin tribe and The Teeth ogre mercenary company.

I was going to make Jadron the Fang the first named villain the party was intended to take down (they are newly level 8), but all of the source material I can find doesn't have his race identified.

Would anyone know if Jadron is a human or an ogre? Or perhaps a hobgoblin?

George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Aug 2020 :  16:36:22  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it has to be taken as a given that Jadron is an ogre.

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SuperWiz
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Posted - 25 Aug 2020 :  18:43:51  Show Profile Send SuperWiz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was looking for anyone that had a concrete answer that possibly came from a novel or obscure sourcebook that I wasn't aware of.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 25 Aug 2020 :  19:00:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SuperWiz

I was looking for anyone that had a concrete answer that possibly came from a novel or obscure sourcebook that I wasn't aware of.



Pretty sure the only reference to him is leading that group of ogres, which makes it most likely that he himself is an ogre. Of course, given the absence of anything more, you can do with him pretty much what you want -- as I sometimes say, if something is not explicitly defined in canon, then you cannot violate that canon.

And even if there was something in canon, he's one of the more obscure things in Realmslore. Unless someone *really* knows their 2E-era mercs or ogres, no one's going to recognize the name.

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SuperWiz
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Posted - 27 Aug 2020 :  03:08:57  Show Profile Send SuperWiz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My first, mental image of him was a long-haired human in dark plate armor dual-wielding longswords. I think I will go with that.

Something about the name doesn't seem like an Ogre would name themselves.

Thanks for the replies, and if anyone comes along later and knows, please send me a message :)
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quote:
Originally posted by SuperWiz

My first, mental image of him was a long-haired human in dark plate armor dual-wielding longswords. I think I will go with that.

Something about the name doesn't seem like an Ogre would name themselves.

Thanks for the replies, and if anyone comes along later and knows, please send me a message :)



I would suggest that if you make him human, you make sure you have a very good reason for him to be leading a bunch of ogres -- and for them to follow him.

I myself would be inclined to make him something not fully ogre, but related -- a half-ogre or something.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 13 Sep 2020 :  03:23:37  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Acolyte SuperWiz,

You will find the reference to his being an ogre on page 22 of accessory FR15: Gold and Glory. It states the following:

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To join the Teeth, an ogre must go through a rigorous initiation, including filing all teeth to sharp points. The only way to leave the Teeth is by dying.


The implication there clearly being that to join the 'Teeth' one must be an ogre. It doesn't mean that the 'Teeth' do not control other forces beyond them, that do not possess 'membership' within that, loosely stated, organization.

I hope that helps.

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