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Microchips
Acolyte
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 18:15:29
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Hello i am a new poster and I just wondered if you "masters of realmslore" could do me a favour 
i want to know everything about
THe REasons for the Descent of the drow - i have seen differing ideas - one says that they were evil from the start and another says that Grumsh turned Lolth (or Lloth) evil and she in turn made Drow evil
i also want to know what armies stopped the drow and forced them into under dark
Thankyou in advance 
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 : 19:03:35
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First, welcome to Candlekeep!
I believe that most of the answers you seek can be found in the novel Evermeet: Island of the Elves, by the esteemed Elaine Cunningham, who has her own thread on these fine boards.
Also, the 2nd edition sourcebook Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves gives a lot of info about the Crown Wars, as I recall. |
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Microchips
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2004 : 17:52:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
First, welcome to Candlekeep!
I believe that most of the answers you seek can be found in the novel Evermeet: Island of the Elves, by the esteemed Elaine Cunningham, who has her own thread on these fine boards.
Also, the 2nd edition sourcebook Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves gives a lot of info about the Crown Wars, as I recall.
cheers for that ill buy them..........when i get enough money |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 May 2004 : 19:18:34
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| You'll likely have to hit eBay or another used book source for Cormanthyr. It was a 2nd edition product, so it's not likely to be sitting on any store shelves. I have seen it more than once on eBay, though. |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
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Posted - 01 May 2004 : 19:19:34
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Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves can be downloaded from the WotC homepage:
[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr1165.zip] |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2004 : 20:48:44
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| Ah, well, that's certainly cheap enough. Now all friend Microchips needs is a few bucks to pick up Evermeet. |
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Microchips
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2004 : 21:18:21
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Originally posted by Hymn
Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves can be downloaded from the WotC homepage:
[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr1165.zip]
thnaks sure is cheap apart form Evermeet what are some other good realms novels (apart from RA Salvatore - Read them all) |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2004 : 22:46:03
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The Songs and Swords series by Elaine Cunningham is a real treat for your mind.
I suggest you go in on the Novel forum and check around some there for tips on a good read. |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 May 2004 : 05:14:47
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ah, well, that's certainly cheap enough. Now all friend Microchips needs is a few bucks to pick up Evermeet.
I just saw it in a used bookstore yesterday. Obviously the person who put it there didn't know what it actually was. Only reason I can think of for giving up such a treasure.  |
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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 May 2004 : 02:00:24
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Well Microchips I have looked into races of Faerun in the drow section. It states that after the elven migration the elves colonized cities. And the drow were one of the most powerful however jealous. So after launching several failed attempts to conquer their fellows in the first crown wars they made a pact with Lloth and she gave them magic fiends and support. Eventually Corellon managed to turn them back. With elven armies of course. Then banished them to the surface after changing their skin and giving them the name dharow or drow (traitor) More info is in Evermeet Island of elves and Cormanthor. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Sep 2018 : 19:31:29
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Acolyte Microchips,
There are some newer updates as well regarding the Descent of the Drow:
- Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3rd Edition)
- Races of Faerun
- Lost Empires of Faerun
- Underdark
- Grand History of the Realms
- Players Guide to the Faerun
- The Drow of the Underdark (2nd Edition)
- Lords of Darkness
- Demihuman Deities
- Faiths and Pantheons
- Menzobarranzan: City of Intrigue
- Children of Darkness, Dragon #367
Best regards,
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Originally posted by Microchips
Hello i am a new poster and I just wondered if you "masters of realmslore" could do me a favour
i want to know everything about
THe REasons for the Descent of the drow - i have seen differing ideas - one says that they were evil from the start and another says that Grumsh turned Lolth (or Lloth) evil and she in turn made Drow evil
i also want to know what armies stopped the drow and forced them into under dark
Thankyou in advance
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2018 : 20:23:51
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Originally posted by cpthero2
Acolyte Microchips,
There are some newer updates as well regarding the Descent of the Drow:
- Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3rd Edition)
- Races of Faerun
- Lost Empires of Faerun
- Underdark
- Grand History of the Realms
- Players Guide to the Faerun
- The Drow of the Underdark (2nd Edition)
- Lords of Darkness
- Demihuman Deities
- Faiths and Pantheons
- Menzobarranzan: City of Intrigue
- Children of Darkness, Dragon #367
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by Microchips
Hello i am a new poster and I just wondered if you "masters of realmslore" could do me a favour
i want to know everything about
THe REasons for the Descent of the drow - i have seen differing ideas - one says that they were evil from the start and another says that Grumsh turned Lolth (or Lloth) evil and she in turn made Drow evil
i also want to know what armies stopped the drow and forced them into under dark
Thankyou in advance
There's also the 5e Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes (which changes a lot of stuff) and Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2285 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2018 : 20:30:36
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Great Reader Irennan,
Thank you for that. I haven't dug into 5th edition at all yet.
Best regards,
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Originally posted by Irennan
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Originally posted by cpthero2
Acolyte Microchips,
There are some newer updates as well regarding the Descent of the Drow:
- Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3rd Edition)
- Races of Faerun
- Lost Empires of Faerun
- Underdark
- Grand History of the Realms
- Players Guide to the Faerun
- The Drow of the Underdark (2nd Edition)
- Lords of Darkness
- Demihuman Deities
- Faiths and Pantheons
- Menzobarranzan: City of Intrigue
- Children of Darkness, Dragon #367
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by Microchips
Hello i am a new poster and I just wondered if you "masters of realmslore" could do me a favour
i want to know everything about
THe REasons for the Descent of the drow - i have seen differing ideas - one says that they were evil from the start and another says that Grumsh turned Lolth (or Lloth) evil and she in turn made Drow evil
i also want to know what armies stopped the drow and forced them into under dark
Thankyou in advance
There's also the 5e Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes (which changes a lot of stuff) and Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide.
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2018 : 20:35:44
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| 5e Realms share a lot with the 2e Realms (in that there was this large event that reverted most of the changes that 3e and 4e brought, bringing back nearly every god and many characters that had died before, places that had been destroyed, etc...) However, WotC is also very retcon-happy in 5e (for example, the matter of the Descent underwent heavy changes). |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2285 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2018 : 21:04:04
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Great Reader Irennan,
Thank you for the scoop on that. The degree of butthurtness that I experienced at fourth was so huge, I never went to fourth, and I've only bought a few 5e adventures, knowing I could use the material with PF. I am finding that the more I get information from you all via this fine, fine site, the more I am considering just getting read up on the material to be current. Then, like anyone else, I can simply go from there with my own campaign changes.
Thank you!
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Originally posted by Irennan
5e Realms share a lot with the 2e Realms (in that there was this large event that reverted most of the changes that 3e and 4e brought, bringing back nearly every god and many characters that had died before, places that had been destroyed, etc...) However, WotC is also very retcon-happy in 5e (for example, the matter of the Descent underwent heavy changes).
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