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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
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 Posted - 16 Feb 2016 : 19:26:15
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| So maybe it would be better if they didn't make a movie at all. I would be fine with that, obviously. I'm content with what's out there rig by now--well, maybe not content, as I wish there were more novels, but I don't think there needs to be another platform. D&D is a niche and always has been. Making it a big blockbuster movie would ruin that |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4430 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2016 : 19:58:21
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
So maybe it would be better if they didn't make a movie at all. I would be fine with that, obviously. I'm content with what's out there rig by now--well, maybe not content, as I wish there were more novels, but I don't think there needs to be another platform. D&D is a niche and always has been. Making it a big blockbuster movie would ruin that
So you don't want to make the brand (and thus game) bigger, potentially opening the door for more players/fans and creating the possibility for more prosperity?
But maybe you're right. D&D, as a brand and it's iconic presence, doesn't translate well to other media platforms outside of boardgames and some video games. I mean just look at Neverwinter the MMO. It was pretty boring and I LIKE MMOs and the Realms.
D&D will likely never get out of the "Kids playing in Grandma's basement" image that it so easily conjures for the general public. It's just unfortunate considering how well similar movies have met such great success
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2016 : 20:22:46
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I wouldn't mind it being bigger, but I think there are other ways of doing that. I don't think it needs a movie. Movie goers aren't necessarily going to start playing D&D, because that would be "nerdy". They're movie goers, not gamers. That is the case with a lot of fantasy movies. They see it for the special effects.
What I think should happen is they get back to printing more novels. As a bookworm, that's what attracted me. I wasn't a gamer, but I love the fantasy genre. D&D likely has and always will attract readers and gamers. It's not going to appeal to people who aren't into that kind of thing. Movie lover's who don't also love gaming or reading are going to see the movie and be done with it. There might be a percentage who are like "huh, that was really good. I want to know more." But I honestly don't think it would attract a whole new generation of gamers. Heck, I think 4e was better at doing that, and I didn't like 4e. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4430 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2016 : 20:38:45
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Here's what I found out:
New D&D Movie
D&D movie in the works
D&D movie of your dreams is rolling
So Warner Bros is going to be funding the movie, which they've said will receive a nice sized Summer Blockbuster budget. David Leslie Johnson (“The Conjuring 2, Orphan, Wrath of the Titans”) haw written the screenplay and Roy Lee (“The Lego Movie”), among others, is producing.
And one of the articles already mentioned Drizzt, lol. In the comments it appears as the same discussion is happening here: Whether or not to make it about Drizzt or an original group.
So setting Drizzt aside AND any other well-known character, speculations on where, who, and when in the Realms:
Where: Baldur's Gate. This city is just as well, or better, known than Waterdeep and the setting for one of the most popular CRPGs of the 90's. Even people who weren't D&D or Realms fans have at least heard of it. AND it was an introduction for many into the genre. Additionally you can branch off from that area and do sea-faring parts in the Sea of Swords, visit areas like The Frendly Arms Inn, and go either north to Waterdeep/Neverwinter/Icewind Dale or East towards the Silver Marches.
When: With the amount of effort by WotC and the FR team to "fix" the post-Spellplague Realms I cannot imagine that they would do any other time frame than the current era of 1480/1490 DR.
Who: Well if it's an original group, I'd say something similar to you're 4-corner stone party - Fighter, Wizard, Rogue, Cleric. Most likely the main hero will be a Fighter or Wizard but I could be wrong and they go with the Rogue. The cleric honestly never gets the spotlight they really deserve. Races will vary and we might see a stronger mix-mash of Elf, Dwarf, Human, and Halfling. Maybe they throw in a Barbarian or even a Paladin into the mix but I doubt they'll be fully apart of the adventure. My guess it's like this:
Chondathan Human Male Fighter, new to the hero trade he embarks on the quest to save a town or friend against an unimaginable foe...
Shield Dwarven male cleric, favored of Moradin he too is looking to help the fighter in his quest because said unimaginable foe is a threat to civilization and also has a very rare item that the cleric wants for his temple.
Moon Elven Wizard (male or female): Asked to look after the intrepid hero, they initially hold resentment towards their charge thinking the whole ordeal beneath them and would rather get a group of elves to do it. Also has reservations about the Dwarf too, for cultural reasons. Soon they come to enjoy the fighters company and eventually form a strong bond (perhaps romantically) with the main character.
Strongwise Halfling Rogue (male or female): Found en-route to fight their foe, they pull the rogue out of some trap or ordeal and save his/her life. In exchange they decided to help the party, up to a certain point. When that point is reached, they'll either betray the group or find the courage to carry on. They might also have a romantic relationship with the main here, depending on the Wizard character.
In this movie you can be sure it'll use terms Realms fans will giggle at and happily clap about because Zhentarim or Zass Tam or some other name-drop will occur. We'll see sights on what the developers will believe are the settings locales (probably to the spurn of Realms fans for ultimately getting some minor detail wrong), and they're will be a Dragon(s) and most likely a dungeon (because that's the name of the movie, duh).
The bad guy will also probably be some evil wizard or spellcaster because martial warriors BBEGs aren't a thing in trope-fantasy movies. They'll have monsters like Beholders and maybe something fantastic like a Displacer Beast or some random Owlbear the Heroes barely fend off. And you might have one hero die, but I doubt that will be the case. The movie will end, most likely, happily ever after OR create room for a spin-off or sequel. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
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2708 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2016 : 20:47:48
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| Well I guess if it is already in the works, I guess it it too late for FR fans to voice their opinion on what kind of movie it should be, eh? |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 : 16:27:33
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They hired the guy from the Titans movies for this.
They either think these are the kind if movies they want the D&D movie to be like or they care so little about this Franchise that they just picked the next free director that had 'fantasy' listed somewhere in his body of work.
Neither explanation is a reason to hope that the 4th D&D movie will be better than the last three. More expensive, but not better |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 : 16:59:31
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Originally posted by Mirtek
They hired the guy from the Titans movies for this.
They either think these are the kind if movies they want the D&D movie to be like or they care so little about this Franchise that they just picked the next free director that had 'fantasy' listed somewhere in his body of work.
Neither explanation is a reason to hope that the 4th D&D movie will be better than the last three. More expensive, but not better
I haven't watched the Titan movie yet, was it any good? |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 : 21:32:51
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Originally posted by Irennan
I haven't watched the Titan movie yet, was it any good?
Clash of the Titans was so-so, IMO. Wrath of the Titans.....a bit less than the 1st one. I felt it had a tacked-on feeling. |
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Caladan Brood
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 : 22:27:30
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What they need to do is
A) Secure solid actors
B) Make it visually amazing (huge budget)
C) Avoid the "game" side because it only hampers story
D) Have a storyline that avoids tropes and cliches
E) Isn't based on any FR novel because sorry for saying so they just aren't very good (the best I read is still almost unbearable)
F) Not be like the previous D&D "movies"
G) Find and use key elements to set it apart from other fantasy worlds
H) Be serious yet fun/entertaining with no nods and winks
I) Have well developed, likable, interesting characters and relationships
J) A simple but effective plot against a deep background
K) Have realistic-looking costumes, props and sets
Yeah it's not going to happen.
But a man can dream.
Question: If you were going to adapt a D&D module, Realms or not, which one would you pick?
And apologies for my rudeness. I love the Realms but just not the novels. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 : 23:21:53
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Originally posted by Caladan Brood
Question: If you were going to adapt a D&D module, Realms or not, which one would you pick?
Something based on Van Richten in Ravenloft would be great. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2016 : 02:03:35
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| I think there are many great FR novels out there, and there are those that aren't so great. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Feb 2016 : 02:16:51
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Originally posted by Caladan Brood
Question: If you were going to adapt a D&D module, Realms or not, which one would you pick?
I'm not all that familiar with pre-WotC D&D and that's, unfortunately, where the bulk of D&D's modules are placed. That being said I've always enjoyed the Tomb of Horrors. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2016 : 10:15:37
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Originally posted by Caladan Brood
E) Isn't based on any FR novel because sorry for saying so they just aren't very good (the best I read is still almost unbearable)
And apologies for my rudeness. I love the Realms but just not the novels.
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I think there are many great FR novels out there, and there are those that aren't so great.
This is about personal taste. I don't like most of the novels, I must confess, but there are a few writers whose work I really like. Novels are different from movies, on the other hand, and maybe some action sequences that were not my stuff in novels will work well in the silver screen. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Feb 2016 : 22:03:51
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Originally posted by Artemas Entreri
I think it will take an act of Tymora for any D&D movie to succeed. It's difficult to make a fantasy-related movie mainstream and pull it off well. The LOTR movies were fantastic, but most of the stuff that comes out is merely visually appealing while lacking story or a strong cast, etc.
Take the "Shannara Chronicles" for example: looks great (aside from the over-indulged elf ears), tastes like crap. Terrible casting, writing, so on and so forth.
This really goes to show how people's tastes differ. My wife and I both love the new series. I haven't had any problem with the casting or acting and I think the story is pretty cool. I don't have the perspective of someone who's read the books so I don't think I have any biases towards the story. Similar to when they had the series Legend of the Seeker, my wife and I loved the show but I heard from a few fans of the books how bad the show was.
I thought "Legend of the Seeker" suffered from the same things I listed for the "Shannara Chronicles."
On a positive note, the "Game of Thrones" show did an excellent job in their casting.
I liked the lead actress in Legend of the Seeker, but they could never do the novels justice on a network that has to do it PG-13.
It should have been done by HBO or Netflix or something.
Legend of the Seeker is to rape, what Game of Thrones is to murder of main characters.
You can't show that on PG tv. |
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