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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 21:54:55
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| DW: You're assuming WotC will be that smart. In the past they haven't been. Don't get me wrong, I would like to see them go that route...but I wont be holding my breath. I mean, they haven't even been able to maintain a solid website (numerous problems over the years). |
I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one. |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
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Posted - 03 Mar 2014 : 23:09:19
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Well it's a good thing I am well paid because if I wasn't, then I most likely wouldn't buy it.
OTOH, I am worried about the starter set because the last one was absolute shite. The Pathfinder starter is how you are supposed to do it. |
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#8213; J.R.R. Tolkien
*I endorse everything Dark Wizard says*. |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 00:12:50
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For me the one good thing about the PHB price point is it gives me an idea of what the cost of the 5E Forgotten Realms Hardcover will be.
Realms books are traditionally sold at a premium, so I expect a book in the ~$60-$70 price range.
As someone who plays D&D with 3.5 rules, the value of 5E to me is not in the new rules set, but in the content of new Realms products, because that is what I can port into any Realms campaign I run in the future. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 04:50:43
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Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer
For me the one good thing about the PHB price point is it gives me an idea of what the cost of the 5E Forgotten Realms Hardcover will be.
Realms books are traditionally sold at a premium, so I expect a book in the ~$60-$70 price range.
As someone who plays D&D with 3.5 rules, the value of 5E to me is not in the new rules set, but in the content of new Realms products, because that is what I can port into any Realms campaign I run in the future.
Unless I am mistaken, the various campaign books/boxed sets have been about the same price as the core books, not more. |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 05:54:44
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My comment above was indicative of 3E forward. Apologies for assuming everyone new that's where I was coming from.
It's my understanding, based on commentary from Ryan Dancey and Sean K Reynolds, that 3E Realms sourcebooks were always sold at a premium over their non-Realms counterparts. Likewise with the "starter" books over their core rulebook counterparts.
However, it's possible that the FRCS (for 3E) may have been an exception, also the FRCG for 4E.
When I get a chance I'll compare the prices.
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OK, the list price for the 3E FRCS was $39.95. Likewise the 4E FRCG.
The core rulebooks list price for 3E was $19.95 and 4E at $34.95.
So while 4E's core rulebook prices went up from the 3E prices, the price for the FR hardback for each edition stayed the same.
It'd sure be nice if WotC's list price for the 5E Realms campaign guide was the same as that for the 5E core rulebooks, but I'm not betting on it. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
Edited by - Jeremy Grenemyer on 04 Mar 2014 07:08:06 |
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BlackAce
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 11:29:29
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| I'm with Markus on this one. I get the distinct impression Wizards still haven't grasped that many regard them as the RPG equivalent of EA and that they'll have to do some serious price point grovelling to win back a market that at best is indifferent and at worst bitter. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 12:45:55
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
The D&D Next PHB preorder is currently going for $49.95 $37.96 (24% off from list price) and B&N.
Comparable to the top RPGs of the last quarter:
- Pathfinder Core Rulebook at $32.57 (34% off), which has been out for a few years.
- Star Wars: Edge of the Empire at $44.00 (26% off, list price at $59.95!).
- 4E PHB is $22.11 (36% off from list).
The biggest selling point to the Pathfinder Core Rulebook (in my mind, anyway) is that, for the price of a Player's Handbook, you're getting the DMG thrown into the book for free. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Plaguescarred
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 18:09:29
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Perhaps someone decided I/we was right, and that they need an 'introductory price' to bring the people back in droves?
I hope so - they need to price the first D&Dnext book in such a way that people WON'T CARE if its good or not. Price it too high (average price for other company's products, or more), and people won't even bother buying it, simply becuase they already have something they are happy with, and they left D&D because they were unhappy in the first place. At that oint, it won't matter if 5e is good or not, because no-one will know it. It would have to be a whole 'nother level of awesome to overcome that (in other words, the people who DO take a look at it starting shouting from the rooftops how good it is).
So its either pure GOLD, or they price it in such a way people will just buy it to see what the deal is (and if it IS good, they then buy all future products). Thats a big risk they are taking if they are banking on it being the amazing edition they are hoping it will be. Even if they do a 'first 30 days gets $10 off' deal (or a pre-purchase thing), it will give it the shot-in-the-arm it so desperately needs.
The weird thing is, at this point in time, I definitely see myself running D&Dnext... but 5eFR? Not so much.....
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Plaguescarred
Learned Scribe
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5th edition release date leaked
