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Faraer
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  21:45:00  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Yup -- I'm thinking of ancient coins, though, not the mints of existing states. That's its own thread, though, and my notes on modern coins are relatively complete. For instance, the copper/silver/electrum/gold/platinum currency of Sembia is steelpense/hawk/electrum/[various]/[none], while the mint of Selgaunt produces penny/raven/ring/fivestar/sun.


Oh, ancient coins....... Hmmm, I could give you drow coins, but I hardly think that's what you want, hmm?

Please do, I don't know what they are.

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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  21:47:43  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahh, well, there are many different Underdark Realms, mints, societies, and such. Which area would you like to learn the coinage of?

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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  21:55:13  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, drow societies that worship Lolth tend to have a form of currency known as "spiders". Coins with more value are named after more deadly spiders, and coins with less value are named after harmless spiders.

My reference WotSQ Book 1 Dissolution

In the slums, Ryld pays the bugbear with a golden "spider".

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Faraer
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  15:26:30  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gimme anything you got, I don't recall that kind of information from the sources I have. Haven't read the WotSQ books: not actively enthusiastic about drow, and hesitant to start on a long series.

Anyone recall the currency of any of the Western Heartlands trade-cities being named?
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  18:21:21  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Gimme anything you got, I don't recall that kind of information from the sources I have. Haven't read the WotSQ books: not actively enthusiastic about drow, and hesitant to start on a long series.

Anyone recall the currency of any of the Western Heartlands trade-cities being named?



Like drow or not, the WotSQ series is FANTASTIC!!! But I wont get off-topic

Nice info Shadowlord, thanks

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  21:26:05  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem. As I have said before, I know pretty much all there is to know about the drow and about Netheril. Oh, to let you know, those who follow Vhaeraun often trade in "Masks", as Vhaeraun is the "Masked Lord." Eilistraee's followers tend to use the currency of whichever society they are closest to, but can sometimes mint silver "Moons". They do not mint in anything but silver, platinum, or any other metal with that color sheen, though I doubt they use aluminum.....

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  22:58:36  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
aye thanks 4 the info. i know this is goin 2 sound like i have the inteligence of an ogre, but what is: WotSQ?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  01:26:29  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ack, not ogre, more like goblin..... Anyways, WotSQ stands for The War of the Spider Queen Series, created by R.A. Salvatore, and written by many up and coming authors.

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Faraer
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  14:18:50  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
/copper/silver/electrum/gold/platinum/other/
Cormyr/thumb/falcon/blue eye/lion/tricrown//
Sembia/steelpense/hawk/electrum/…/—//FRA p. 129
-Selgaunt/penny/raven/ring/fivestar/sun//Sembia novel series
Calimshan///////
-Calimport/unarch/decarch/centarch/bicenta/kilarch//
-Memnon//red worm/////FRA p. 129
…/rada, niften, spanner/espedrille/tazo, zonth////FRA p. 129
Amn/fandar /taran/decime (centaur)/danter/roldon (pearl)//Lands of Intrigue: Amn p. 13
Silverymoon///electrum moon (2/1 ep)////FRA p. 129
Tethyr (new)/donsar (lash)/paxar (blade)/corlar (king)/aenar (queen), brakar (star) (2 gp)/daublar (cup)//Lands of Intrigue: Tethyr p. 15
-Zazesspur////gulder///
-Ithmong////moelan///
-Myratma////myrat///
-Saradush////zoth///
Waterdeep/nib/shard/moon/dragon/sun/toal (2/– gp), harbor moon (50/2 gp)/GTR p. 26
Vast///////
-Ravens Bluff////raven///The City of Ravens Bluff p. 66, 79
Western Heartlands///////
///////
Chessenta//talent//drake///FR10 Old Empires p. 56
Unther/wedge (Ľ cp)/egora//sheka///The Alabaster Staff
Serôs (pearls)/white (seyar)/yellow (hayar)//green (tayar)/blue (nuyar)//Sea of Fallen Stars p. 55
?////highcrown (HoF p. 64)/plat//

Edited by - Faraer on 04 Feb 2004 14:19:36
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  16:49:32  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

aye thanks 4 the info. i know this is goin 2 sound like i have the inteligence of an ogre, but what is: WotSQ?



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Lord Rad
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  16:55:38  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry if this appears to be a stupid question, but what do all the multiples of slashes (/) mean in your post, Faraer?

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  17:00:46  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think he probably tried to put things in columns, but the forum doesn't like you puting extra spaces in.

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Jacinth Greyfox
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  20:52:27  Show Profile  Visit Jacinth Greyfox's Homepage Send Jacinth Greyfox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the thriving bazaars of Zakahra the following coins are currently in circulation by order of the Grand Caliph (may Fate grant him wisdom!),

c.p. - Bit
s.p. - Dirham
g.p. - Dinar

Arabaian adventures p85.

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Faraer
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Posted - 04 Feb 2004 :  21:00:41  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup, the slashes are table delineation -- hard to read, but decipherable. I've seen a list which I think has some entries this one doesn't, but the webpage is now password-protected.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  01:52:14  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Ack, not ogre, more like goblin.....

well Shadowlord, that was a good attempt at an insult, but u just proved u r the lesser inteligent. u c, goblins r smarter than ogres, so u actually said i was smarter than i said i am...good try though

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The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  01:53:55  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

aye thanks 4 the info. i know this is goin 2 sound like i have the inteligence of an ogre, but what is: WotSQ?


Don't worry, we can't possibly think any less of you.


*snarls at Bookwyrm* dont tempt me lizard, or i shall slice ur belly open like a fish mongol guts a fish!!!

Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead

The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Shadowlord
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Oooh, Bookwyrm, I do believe that was a challenge.... And no, goblin-kin is far less intelligent that ogres even.....

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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  06:44:40  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmph. ::holds his head haughtily::

With the way you speak, "Spellsage," I doubt you'd even know where to strike. Some things are just beyond some people . . . .

(Heh. This is fun. I don't usually get to insult people. )

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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  21:54:22  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

goblin-kin is far less intelligent that ogres

nay, goblin inteligence - 10
ogres inteligence - 6

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The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  21:56:59  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Hmph. ::holds his head haughtily::

With the way you speak, "Spellsage," I doubt you'd even know where to strike. Some things are just beyond some people . . . .

(Heh. This is fun. I don't usually get to insult people. )


hold ur tongue Bookwyrm, lest i slice it off!

Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead

The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2004 :  23:08:20  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

AHEM ....so, about these coins....

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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 07 Feb 2004 :  16:58:32  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ah, aye, the um coins...*shifty eyes* so how bout those Sembian raven coins?

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Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

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Posted - 31 Mar 2006 :  04:43:59  Show Profile  Visit Aquanova's Homepage Send Aquanova a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FYI, I found this thread during a search for "Drow".

quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Ahh, well, there are many different Underdark Realms, mints, societies, and such. Which area would you like to learn the coinage of?


If you don't mind my asking (that is, if you're still around after two years of this thread's genesis), how about Undrek'Thoz, and Menzoberranzan?

PS- I too haven't read the WotSQ novels... as with Faraer's case, I'm wary of devoting myself to large book series (especially since I heard that WotSQ had its fair share of inconsistencies due to multiple authors), and I'm always up to my armpits in books (right now I'm working on Tom Clancy's Clear and Present Danger), and don't exactly have a lot of spare cash to spend on novels. Though I do suppose I should get the series, as they're somewhat significant to the Realms, eh...?
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quote:
Originally posted by Aquanova

If you don't mind my asking (that is, if you're still around after two years of this thread's genesis), how about Undrek'Thoz, and Menzoberranzan?
Shadowlord hasn't been around for quite a while -- June '04 was the last time he was here as I recall -- though he popped in earlier this month, but didn't post.

Anyway... as to you question -

In Ed's Drow of the Underdark it specifically mentions that types of gems are sometimes used as a form of trade-currency with races from the surface.

And we learn from the Menzoberranzan boxed set that drow in the City of Spiders usually accept most forms of surface Realms currencies and coinage but tend to be happier with silver and gold pieces than those forged of copper because the metal is usually melted down so that it can be reforged for use where a particular currency or coinage is not honoured.

No specific names for drow currency have actually be properly detailed except that which has been mentioned in FR fiction.

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Additionally, this is an aspect you can probably flesh out on your own considering there is so little actual official lore.

For example, the Menzoberranzan boxed set also says that rare shells, jarred and/or jellied eyeballs, perfumes, and even rare foods and plants can be used as "currency" in some places and with some races.

To that I would add the bones of rare or exotic creatures, shards of dragons scales, and blood from specific monstrous creatures. Coins crafted from bone perhaps... There are many ways you can take things like this.

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So Shadowlord is in absence... just my luck. I suppose it's a good thing that this website is filled with loremasters, eh?

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Additionally, this is an aspect you can probably flesh out on your own considering there is so little actual official lore.

For example, the Menzoberranzan boxed set also says that rare shells, jarred and/or jellied eyeballs, perfumes, and even rare foods and plants can be used as "currency" in some places and with some races.

To that I would add the bones of rare or exotic creatures, shards of dragons scales, and blood from specific monstrous creatures. Coins crafted from bone perhaps... There are many ways you can take things like this.

So essentially a barter system? Not too improbable.

Anyway Sage, you (or at least a lot of y'all) get old FR products as PDFs from RPGNow, don't you? I'd like some advice from those in the know: I'm thinking of ordering Cloak and Dagger off Amazon. However, I'm getting a new PC in about a month (the one I post from isn't mine), and I've heard absolutely nothing but positivity from RPGNow, so logically I'm considering maybe saving some money and ordering a ton of the old FR tomes from that site. How do the PDFs stack up with the real deal?
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