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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  13:47:05  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That reminds me of Dragon Ball Z; Frieza's whole galactic empire was really just a real estate scam. His "World Trade Organization" would conquer planets and wipe out the local population in order to sell them off to the highest bidder.

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Dennis
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  14:00:20  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

No, he didn't sell them. He's just a bored emperor hungry for new toys. [Majimbo's worse.]

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Markustay
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  14:15:48  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I stopped watching Dragonball when I realized their names were 'Frieza' and 'Cooler'.

REALLY?

What happened to 'lunchpail'? Died in the womb?

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Zireael
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  14:54:35  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On topic: if we really had to stick with the Abeir-Toril name (all but dropped in 3e, returned in 4e), separate worlds or timelines seem the best way to go.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  15:05:14  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I stopped watching Dragonball when I realized their names were 'Frieza' and 'Cooler'.

REALLY?

What happened to 'lunchpail'? Died in the womb?



Lol, I've never watched the show, but my stepson was into it. Was one of them named Thermus by chance?

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  16:28:25  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I stopped watching Dragonball when I realized their names were 'Frieza' and 'Cooler'.

REALLY?

What happened to 'lunchpail'? Died in the womb?



Lol, I've never watched the show, but my stepson was into it. Was one of them named Thermus by chance?



No, but their dad's name was Cold(King Cold, to be specific), and they had an ancestor named Chill. I swear I am not making this up.

And Dennis, he did sell them. It's mentioned in a throw-away line during one of the episodes Gohan and Krillin are making their way to Namek, though he certainly wants to move passed the galactic real estate business and into full on evil emperor mode.

As for the topic at hand, I believe I've mentioned elsewhere- probably in this very thread, it's been a while and I'm extremely sleepy right now- that I'm fine with resplitting Abier-Toril so long as they continue producing some Abiernian lore.

That being said, implementing separate timelines would be a mistake. It just gets complicated.

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Markustay
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  17:21:49  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe blow-up Oerth, Krynn, and Mystara (and possibly Aebrynis), and then re-form Abeir after the sundering with all the campaign areas from those worlds on one globe. Kinda goofy, but it would mean they could do the more interesting bits from all of those worlds as a single setting, instead of trying to re-do multiple settings. It could get all the bits and pieces of worlds we've seen over the years as well (Nentir Vale, Jakandor, etc).

Leave FR, Athas, And Eberron alone - they can stand on their own (and DS's flavor is just too different to merge correctly with some other world... although I have postulated before that Abeir may have actually been the perfect world to place Athas on...)

And I not talking about one of my hokey amalgam-maps. I am talking about a brand new world with brand new maps with pieces (lore bits) pasted into it from all those other settings. The GOOD pieces.

Hmph... I think I just merged Abeir with my 'Æthervale' concept (as a new plane to replace the ethereal - a "world between the worlds"). It could work - they should let us play in D&D's 'storage locker'.

You know... the more I think about this...

The way Birthright was setup, and guys like Iuz and Lord Soth, and then taking into account that I pictured the feywild and Shadowfel working very much like Ravenloft (with those captured domains), and then saying the new Æthervale is just like that... Hmmmmmmm... me thinks I see some decent traction there.

Maybe The Sundering should = Crisis on multiple Earths (except not for FR! Except to get back some stuff we lost.)

EDIT: While looking for a good pic to link of Crisis, I found THIS SITE instead. It has an interesting article about rebooting continuities - folks here should read it.

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Edited by - Markustay on 04 Jan 2013 17:28:21
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Mirtek
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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  23:17:50  Show Profile Send Mirtek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markustay
On the other hand, when he pushed the worlds apart, he was saving entire universes (he has done it several times now), including pushing apart the Marvel and DC universes (thus ending the Amalgam comics line).

It's been a decade since I read it, but didn't the brothers just decide to merge/split while the spectre and tribunal were tiny specks with the brothers not even noticing these fleas that tried to keep them apart?
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 05 Jan 2013 :  01:22:57  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have spent A LOT of money on manga over the years (I have most of one wall devoted to them), but I never could get into Dragon Ball Z. The artwork bothered me.

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