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Razz
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 03:02:18
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So I know the story of Malyk and Talos, but I am curious about one thing.
Malyk is still worshipped, correct? And he is a deity of wild magic. Subsumed by Talos, unknowingly by the worshippers, so Talos is their god now. Meaning he has the portfolio of wild magic now. However, it then states Mystra prevented this from happening.
So, exactly who is the deity of wild magic then and where are the worshippers of Malyk getting their spells from? Or they just simply have the "Servant of the Fallen" feat and just derive their power from their continued faith in a dead deity?
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 10:17:52
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Originally posted by Razz
So I know the story of Malyk and Talos, but I am curious about one thing.
Malyk is still worshipped, correct? And he is a deity of wild magic. Subsumed by Talos, unknowingly by the worshippers, so Talos is their god now. Meaning he has the portfolio of wild magic now. However, it then states Mystra prevented this from happening.
So, exactly who is the deity of wild magic then and where are the worshippers of Malyk getting their spells from? Or they just simply have the "Servant of the Fallen" feat and just derive their power from their continued faith in a dead deity?
I don't know about *worshipped*, either in 3e or 4e. He just suddenly up and went and became a god... and I don't know about any influential people worshipping him... to be frank, I don't know about ANY people worshipping him actually.
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Razz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 02:59:38
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He was officially mentioned on page 92 of "Drizzt's Guide to the Underdark." Trying to find other mentions of him, but I am just wondering the stance on the portfolio of wild magic? I assume Mystra just holds onto it but is definitely NOT a deity of it as it'd be against her nature.
But I didn't know deities can HOLD onto portfolios. Wouldn't Ao be the one in charge of that?
EDIT: Also of note, he has a sidebar entry in Polyhedron #116 in Eric Boyd's "Forgotten Deities" article, where he was first mentioned I believe |
Edited by - Razz on 18 Apr 2011 03:26:26 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 04:17:06
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The original reference, as I recall, is from either Menzoberranzan or the Avatar modules. I can't immediately remember which at the moment.
As it is, Eric Boyd then took that small reference and provided a full write-up in POLYHEDRON as part of the "Forgotten Deities" series of articles. He then dropped it into F&A, as an alias for Talos, and DDGttU. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 : 07:50:38
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| I think it was Menzo boxed set where he was first mentioned. |
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The_Silversword
Seeker
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Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 12:05:30
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I see no reason why he wouldn't still be worshipped, he did have a cult, right? I was just thinking on this myself, planning on using some Cultists of Malyk in my 4e game.
According to legend he was a Drow Lich, who during the Time O Troubles, came across a powerful wild magic zone in the underdark infused with a shard of Mystra's essence, which he absorbed into himself, thereby becoming the god of Wild Magic, after which Talos killed him and took the power for himself. I don't remember where I read that, I think it was in an issue of Polyhedron.
But any way, to answer your questions, it depends on the time period on who has the Wild Magic portfolio or sphere or domain, whatever you want to call it. During the Time of Troubles Maylk had it then Talos, once Midnight ascended and became Mystra, then yeah she woulda took it from him, so technically she would be the goddess of Wild Magic as well (She coulda done the same thing with Velsharoon too, never understood why she didn't). Post Spellplague, Mystra dead, so I see no reason why Talos/Gruumsh wouldn't/couldn't reclaim it.
And Priests of Malyk would get their spells from Talos/Gruumsh, unless you're going by 4e rules where they would use some special ritual that gives them their power from within or whatever.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 14:32:22
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Originally posted by The_Silversword
I see no reason why he wouldn't still be worshipped, he did have a cult, right? I was just thinking on this myself, planning on using some Cultists of Malyk in my 4e game.
According to legend he was a Drow Lich, who during the Time O Troubles, came across a powerful wild magic zone in the underdark infused with a shard of Mystra's essence, which he absorbed into himself, thereby becoming the god of Wild Magic, after which Talos killed him and took the power for himself. I don't remember where I read that, I think it was in an issue of Polyhedron.
But any way, to answer your questions, it depends on the time period on who has the Wild Magic portfolio or sphere or domain, whatever you want to call it. During the Time of Troubles Maylk had it then Talos, once Midnight ascended and became Mystra, then yeah she woulda took it from him, so technically she would be the goddess of Wild Magic as well (She coulda done the same thing with Velsharoon too, never understood why she didn't). Post Spellplague, Mystra dead, so I see no reason why Talos/Gruumsh wouldn't/couldn't reclaim it.
And Priests of Malyk would get their spells from Talos/Gruumsh, unless you're going by 4e rules where they would use some special ritual that gives them their power from within or whatever.
Interesting the similarities between Malyk and Mellifleur(aka he who would become Velsharoon). Both liches who through some happenstance tapped into a deity's potential (Malyk from Mystra, Mellifleur from Bane)and stole that power, and then later became involved with Talos (Malyk, subsumed... Mellifleur, taken by Velsharoon with Talos' aid). |
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