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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe

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Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  10:36:45  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At least leather or chainshirt, I think. In drastic combat. But some little dress, I think. I do not think that nudity is okay for male priests.

You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  17:35:42  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would of course have no armor, but have the finest Bracers of Defense AC 0 & Ring of Protection +5!

The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me!
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  18:28:12  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AC 0? You must be playing 2nd ed. A tip-o-the hat to ye'! I said, no armor for me, but a good pair of bracers and a deffending blade (and one of speed) and perhaps a pair of boots of striding and a blet of dex. That's good enough for me!

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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  18:49:20  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would be an engineer with no weapons or magic training.
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Lily M Green
Learned Scribe

Australia
115 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  18:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Lily M Green's Homepage Send Lily M Green a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Ooook. I'm a little leary o' travellin by ship. Been that way since I spent a season sailin the sorriest rotten tub fulla rats on the Moonsea, Mendecant's Dream. Never got an answer when I asked how there was barnacles on the mast pole. Never found out why we went to ruined Phlan of all places. Shoulda swum fer shore when I had the chance.



I assure you, on my vessel a barnacle would barely even be given a chance to settle on, let alone affix itself to the hull; and the you could eat your dinner off the decks - if you so desired - they are so well scrubbed. As for the rats, the vampire cat makes short work of them.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.

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Darsson Spellmaker
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  23:07:04  Show Profile Send Darsson Spellmaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wish I could say I'd be a wizard, but I think all that endless studying of crumbling scrolls and mouldering tomes would drive me crazy in the end. I'd want to get out and explore, and really do things! Sitting in an ivory tower endlessly studying isn't conducive to that.
I wish I could say I'd be a priest of Eilistraee, but I don't think she accepts human men as clerics, and her clergy seems like a bunch of militant feminist man-haters anyway.
I think I'd probably be a priest of Sune; being surrounded by love and beauty is always a good thing, plus I'd work on developing a spell that instantly and painlessly reshapes an individual's physical appearance to what they'd like it to be. Every vain noble on the planet would pay good money for that, although I can also think of some criminal uses such a spell could be put to. Failing that, I'd develop healing spells that leave no scars behind. Realmsian plastic surgery for the win!

"Know, O mages, that there is learning, and there is wisdom, and they are very far from being the same thing."--Azuth the High One, Utterances from the Altar: Collected Verbal Manifestations of the Divine and Most Holy Lord of Spells (holy chapbook, assembled by anonymous priests of Azuth circa 1358 DR)
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Alystra Illianniis
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USA
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Posted - 21 Oct 2010 :  23:17:03  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Militant feminist man-haters? Tsk-tsk. I think you're confusing Eilistraee with Lolth, lol! She is much more tolerant- and there is some lore showing that she lets males into her clergy. So maybe you'd have a shot. I'd like to be both. Wizard, AND priest of one of the elven gods, or of Sharess, perhaps. Mostly for her patronage of cats. I'd be part of the animal kindness branch, lol! And wizards can have fun in the field- just think of all the hours they must spend studying the creatures they use in their magical experients. I' sure they do a lot of fieled-work for that.

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  00:17:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I once considered to be a priest. But to be almost totally dependent on a deity for almost everything? Nah, that's too much. If my patron god dies, so do I – if not physically outright, in long agonizing depression or madness. Too grim a fate.

At least a wizard can do as he pleases without necessarily depending on a deity.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  00:26:11  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'nn a very spiritually inclined person, so I'd want to help the cause of one. And if they "died", I'd keep the faith alive and try to bring thenn back!

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:04:48  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm spiritually inclined, too. But my REAL God does not die.

Every beginning has an end.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:12:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, we're delving a little too deeply into real-world matters, like religion. Let's leave it at that, eh?

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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:19:52  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A difference is that D&D powers grant their followers very tangible abilities, spells, and miracles every day.

Faith and spirituality take on entirely different dimensions when your god has a mailing address.

[Edit]
Sorry Sage - your moderation wasn't there when I started the message, honest.

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 22 Oct 2010 01:20:45
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Alystra Illianniis
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USA
3750 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:22:16  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hee-hee! Well said! But how do you find a stamp for that? Oh, wait- they use "knee-mail", lol!! Sorry- had to go there...

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Edited by - Alystra Illianniis on 22 Oct 2010 01:24:52
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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:30:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A diviner sounds good, too. 'Tis fun to know the future - to lead good men in the right path and mislead the evil ones...But I have to be an excellent abjurer as well; I don't want to be a plaything of the Realms' greatest villains - like what happened to Yaphyll in Tam's hands.

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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:33:28  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Diviner was my choice too, back on scroll 1

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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  01:48:00  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Diviner was my choice too, back on scroll 1



I like the 'lottery' part in that post. Heh, why spend years toiling when I can in mere seconds divine the right number combinations to win a lottery.

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xaviera
Learned Scribe

Canada
149 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  07:00:05  Show Profile  Visit xaviera's Homepage Send xaviera a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll opt for a mid-level priestess in Calimport's Festhall of Eternal Delight.


Writings on Sharess: Thoughts & Prayers by Xaviera ~ High Priestess of Sharess
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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  14:16:38  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And so we learn exactly what the diviners spend all their free time watching.

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Alystra Illianniis
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USA
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  17:16:17  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odd, I'd have thought they would spend most of their time watching scenes in the brothels....

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  17:34:51  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Calimport (City of Decadence), Festhall of Eternal Delight (Sharess) ...

I expect the lighting is much better in temples than in brothels.

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Alystra Illianniis
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USA
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  17:41:30  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but the action is probably better in the brothels!! (Think- FR "adult films") LOL!! And the temples are probably warded against that, anyway.... *snickers* Guess they'd be out of luck.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  17:50:28  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wards against scrying??? Pah! Serious diviners have crystal balls.

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:06:28  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

Wards against scrying??? Pah! Serious diviners have crystal balls.



I think only the Chosen (not just Mystra's) and/or the deities' favorites (and perhaps a few temples particularly special to the deities) have impregnable wards against divination. I remember in TW Brennus was able to divine almost anyone, except Elminster, Cale, and Riven. So diviners of decent enough power can pierce whatever weaker wards a temple has.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:09:02  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That clink together to make music!! LOL! And those can be warded against, too. With a Boot of Smiting +5

Seriously, though, if the temple knows that people are going to be peeping- er, scrying on their activities like that, they would probably put up some really tough wards. Not something your common diviner could get through.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:18:44  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis


Seriously, though, if the temple knows that people are going to be peeping- er, scrying on their activities like that, they would probably put up some really tough wards. Not something your common diviner could get through.



Oh, but I wouldn't be a common diviner. I'd be a diviner with the combined abilities of Brennus, Zalathorn, and the Zulkir of Divination herself, Yaphyll. Too ambitious, eh?

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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:20:36  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most temples would set up barriers and alarms, I agree. I have the sneaky suspicion that other temples (like those of Sharess and Milil?) might actually embrace and encourage onlookers. Perhaps as a part of the expression of their religious tenets, perhaps to recruit new subscribers of the faith. Sort of like free cable, to continue your film analogy.

In fact, it seems obvious that diviners of dubious moral quality would actually offer such entertainments to special clientele, for a premium. No doubt there's always plenty of perverted noblemen who will pay handsomely for such entertainments (and more handsomely still for discretion), whether such occurs in brothels, temples, or in the homes of other nobility.

A less impure career path for diviners would be to commission themselves to the temples, to install the wards against scrying, or test and maintain them. Much like "white-hat hackers" in our modern world.

To be truly devious, a temple of Sharess (as an example) might present purely hedonistic but false imagery to screen from scrying eyes whatever really transpires in secret.

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 22 Oct 2010 18:26:40
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:24:43  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooh, I LIKE that idea!! Arik, have you read the Nymphology book? It goes into some of those kinds of uses for divination. Takes the "dirty old man" schlock to a whole new level! And now we know why the Wizard Eye spell was REALLY invented... *snickers* Hmm, free cable.... D'ya think they have "premium channels"?

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Ayrik
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  18:37:09  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, haven't read anything called Nymphology, but I have read Valar's BoEF. To be honest I wasn't especially impressed; the book itself was better quality than a lot of other d20 stuff I've read, and presented some interesting ideas of course ... but BoEF offers to introduce a lot of rules and game mechanics which I think aren't necessary, even ridiculous.

Besides, I'm a dirty old man myself, well at least I plan to be one day, and quite imaginative at times, so such books aren't strictly needed. I don't really want to get my predominantly male D&D group all randied up either. It's already enough of a chore to keep them focussed.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 22 Oct 2010 18:38:17
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  19:12:21  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BoEF? What's that one? Not familiar with it. Nymphology was a somewhat tongue-in-cheek look at lust and pleasure in D&D. (d20 OGL book by MGP) I enjoyed it mostly for the spells, feats, items, and PrC's in it (Discreet Courtesan is great for playing a femme fatale!) There wasn't much extra in the way of rules, which is great, because it can be used without a lot of new rules being implemented. A friend of mine downloaded it for me partly as a joke, but after reading through it, I not only got a lot of giggles, but found some stuff that I could actually USE, too. Some of the spells, while a bit unorthodox and risque, are actually not half bad in combat or regular game-use. Some can help lower enemy AC's or with those Cha-based situations. I liked it. And I'll leave it to your imagination what the "Improved Endurance" feat was for.... Not that it wouldn't help on the battlefield, mind you!

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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Dennis
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Posted - 06 Nov 2010 :  15:38:19  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there such thing as THE BEST PROFESSION in the Realms? Can you recall a novel that SERIOUSLY says what the best profession is? I want to emphasize the word seriously because not a few characters joke about their jobs. I remember one Harper (though unfortunately not her name; maybe it is Ruha) saying she's got THE best profession in the world because she got to wear rags that passed as dress, cover her body with mud, and beg.

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