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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
 Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 02:40:38
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Poll Question:
Would you, as a resident Candlekeep scribe, welcome the opportunity to discuss PATHFINDER novels in the Book Club?
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Wooly raised this point earlier, and it's something I've been thinking about as well. See, we're curious about the potential and reception for Book Club scrolls dedicated to the new line of PATHFINDER novels now being published by Paizo.
It's both my and Wooly's thinking, that since there are a fair degree of Realms contributing authors working with the new novel line, as well as the fact that we already allow discussions based on other PATHFINDER products here at Candlekeep, that chatting about the novels should also have a place as well.
So, we're putting it to the vote. And, if we receive enough positive feedback, I'll open the scrolls for discussing Prince of Wolves, just as soon as my copy arrives.
So start voting! 
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Edited by - The Sage on 05 Aug 2010 02:43:26
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Sith_Lord_Drizzt
Seeker
Canada
92 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 03:12:39
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| First vote!! |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 04:38:15
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Originally posted by Sith_Lord_Drizzt
First vote!!
Well, since I proposed it even before there was a poll, I'm thinking mine was the first vote.   |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 04:44:19
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| Especially since the first several authors are also esteemed Realms authors. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 05:06:43
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I think it is a good idea because the Forgotten Realms Candlekeep also collects information and has books concerning other worlds...
So THIS Candlekeep should reflect that idea as well! |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 05:07:10
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Yes.... my evil plan is working!
First, get them to talk about Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft and other settings. Then, turn the discussion to Pathfinder and Golarion. Finally introduce scrolls on BattleTech and other non-fantasy settings!
MWUH-hahahahahaha
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I said that out loud, didn't I? |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 05:28:00
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Yes.... my evil plan is working!
First, get them to talk about Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft and other settings. Then, turn the discussion to Pathfinder and Golarion. Finally introduce scrolls on BattleTech and other non-fantasy settings!
MWUH-hahahahahaha
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I said that out loud, didn't I?
Heh. I've been attempting such for years, here at Candlekeep. Looks like I've found another proponent for my "Sage's School for Discussing Other Worlds At Candlekeep."  |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 11:02:39
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 11:52:10
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Yes.... my evil plan is working!
First, get them to talk about Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft and other settings. Then, turn the discussion to Pathfinder and Golarion. Finally introduce scrolls on BattleTech and other non-fantasy settings!
MWUH-hahahahahaha
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I said that out loud, didn't I?
Well, we have side-tracked more than one scroll to discuss BattleTech... Besides, it's always fun to point out that Clan Coyote and House Davion are the best factions, and the Cappies are the joke of BattleTech. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:01:59
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Yes.... my evil plan is working!
First, get them to talk about Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft and other settings. Then, turn the discussion to Pathfinder and Golarion. Finally introduce scrolls on BattleTech and other non-fantasy settings!
MWUH-hahahahahaha
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I said that out loud, didn't I?
Heh. I've been attempting such for years, here at Candlekeep. Looks like I've found another proponent for my "Sage's School for Discussing Other Worlds At Candlekeep."
Add it to the top of your "To do" list.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:10:45
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| As long as they have their own shelf, so as not to push the realms novels farther down the screen and harder to find easily. After all, candle keep is in the realms |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:51:32
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, we have side-tracked more than one scroll to discuss BattleTech... Besides, it's always fun to point out that Clan Coyote and House Davion are the best factions, and the Cappies are the joke of BattleTech.
Taking the train off the rails...
Well, a lot more things made sense to me when reading (I think) one of the Conspiracy sourcebooks and they mentioned that when the Cappies kidnapped Hanse in the early 31st century, they stole some 'genetic material' from him, which Romana Liao used to conceive Sun Tzu. So, the progeny of Hanse Davion have claims to all the thrones of the Inner Sphere (and Clan Wolf). |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Edited by - Ashe Ravenheart on 05 Aug 2010 13:51:54 |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 14:44:16
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 15:19:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Yes.... my evil plan is working!
First, get them to talk about Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft and other settings. Then, turn the discussion to Pathfinder and Golarion. Finally introduce scrolls on BattleTech and other non-fantasy settings!
MWUH-hahahahahaha
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I said that out loud, didn't I?
Well, we have side-tracked more than one scroll to discuss BattleTech... Besides, it's always fun to point out that Clan Coyote and House Davion are the best factions, and the Cappies are the joke of BattleTech.
Actually, given the "realities" of Inner Sphere life, now, in the near-post Jihad period, it's looking increasingly that the Davions will end up as the joke.
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Originally posted by Bakra
Add it to the top of your "To do" list.
The Lady K uttered something the other day about avoiding adding new tasks onto my "To-Do" list for healthy reasons. But I just can't seem to help myself.
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Edited by - The Sage on 05 Aug 2010 15:21:38 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 15:21:11
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, we have side-tracked more than one scroll to discuss BattleTech... Besides, it's always fun to point out that Clan Coyote and House Davion are the best factions, and the Cappies are the joke of BattleTech.
Taking the train off the rails...
Well, a lot more things made sense to me when reading (I think) one of the Conspiracy sourcebooks and they mentioned that when the Cappies kidnapped Hanse in the early 31st century, they stole some 'genetic material' from him, which Romana Liao used to conceive Sun Tzu. So, the progeny of Hanse Davion have claims to all the thrones of the Inner Sphere (and Clan Wolf).
You're thinking of The Blake Documents. And it's worth pointing out that the writers of that particular tome have noted, many times on the official BT boards, that readers shouldn't give too much credence to those details.
In other words, while they are "canon," they aren't necessarily an accurate reflection of the truth. Take them with a grain of salt. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 15:37:57
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, we have side-tracked more than one scroll to discuss BattleTech... Besides, it's always fun to point out that Clan Coyote and House Davion are the best factions, and the Cappies are the joke of BattleTech.
Taking the train off the rails...
Well, a lot more things made sense to me when reading (I think) one of the Conspiracy sourcebooks and they mentioned that when the Cappies kidnapped Hanse in the early 31st century, they stole some 'genetic material' from him, which Romana Liao used to conceive Sun Tzu. So, the progeny of Hanse Davion have claims to all the thrones of the Inner Sphere (and Clan Wolf).
You're thinking of The Blake Documents. And it's worth pointing out that the writers of that particular tome have noted, many times on the official BT boards, that readers shouldn't give too much credence to those details.
In other words, while they are "canon," they aren't necessarily an accurate reflection of the truth. Take them with a grain of salt.
True... it's not 'fact', but I like to think it is since that means that they can all call each other cousin. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 05:16:02
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Bump! 
I'm almost finished with Prince of Wolves. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 10 Aug 2010 05:16:37 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 05:37:51
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Indeed. And we've had zero "No" votes, so I'm inclined to assume we'll go ahead with this.
I'm expecting my copy this week, some time, so I'll open the Book Club discussion scrolls when it arrives. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:18:06
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Will this club have it's own shelf or be mixed in with the current club?( even with the recent un-sticking of some scrolls, the current club is "crowded"enough when trying to locate scrolls)
If it going to be put in with the current book club scrolls, I would vote no most vigorously.
If it will be separate i'd say yea. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:35:47
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| I'm thinking we'll try to experiment a little with the discussion scrolls for Prince of Wolves. See how that works, mixed in with the current lot of other Book Club scrolls, and determine whether it works or not. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 02:51:21
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I'm thinking we'll try to experiment a little with the discussion scrolls for Prince of Wolves. See how that works, mixed in with the current lot of other Book Club scrolls, and determine whether it works or not.
Then my vote is no.
And apparently not the only no vote. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 03:05:47
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| I dunno, while I wish Pathfinder's books to be a success, I'm with The Red Walker on this one. I think the book club shelf is loaded enough without novels from other settings. Or maybe make it a single scroll, instead of a 4-5 parts-scrolls, and add (Golarion) to the scroll's title. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 09:35:53
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I don't participate in the book club, so my vote doesn't matter all that much, but I am sceptical. If the novels for Pathfinder becomes a standard part of the cite, then the gaming products will probably get more attention to. And then there is little reason to not allow the discussions of other D&D worlds, is there? I am not saying this is a wholly negative thing, but it will make it more difficult to hold on to a "Realms-Only" policy which has been the standard until now.
Where does Alaundo stand on the question? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 11:44:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
I don't participate in the book club, so my vote doesn't matter all that much, but I am sceptical. If the novels for Pathfinder becomes a standard part of the cite, then the gaming products will probably get more attention to. And then there is little reason to not allow the discussions of other D&D worlds, is there? I am not saying this is a wholly negative thing, but it will make it more difficult to hold on to a "Realms-Only" policy which has been the standard until now.
Where does Alaundo stand on the question?
Well, we have allowed previous discussions of Golarion. And Golarion is unique among D&D settings in that many of the authors/designers that we were familiar with from an FR standpoint are now producing or have produced Golarion material. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 11:52:49
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| Indeed. Which is why we've been pretty flexible with allowing discussions about PATHFINDER here in the past. So, thus, allowing discussion of the novels would be seen as an extension of that flexibility. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 : 11:54:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
I don't participate in the book club, so my vote doesn't matter all that much, but I am sceptical. If the novels for Pathfinder becomes a standard part of the cite, then the gaming products will probably get more attention to. And then there is little reason to not allow the discussions of other D&D worlds, is there? I am not saying this is a wholly negative thing, but it will make it more difficult to hold on to a "Realms-Only" policy which has been the standard until now.
Where does Alaundo stand on the question?
Well, we have allowed previous discussions of Golarion. And Golarion is unique among D&D settings in that many of the authors/designers that we were familiar with from an FR standpoint are now producing or have produced Golarion material.
Yes, but that has mostly been a thread here and there, including the novels in the book club is one step further. Many Realms writers write for the setting that's true, but there has been Realms writers in Star Wars, Runequest, various old TSR worlds etc. I don't mind Candlekeep being more open where other worlds/games are concerned, but it does make it more difficult to decide what is a part of standard Candlekeep discussions. |
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Dave_Gross
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
38 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 02:21:31
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| Call me biased, but I'm excited by the prospect. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 03:28:30
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| Quite a few present and former FR authors write Star War novels as well, but that doesn't mean I want to discuss them here at Candlekeep. I admit, I don't frequent these halls as much as I used to, but I'd hate to see this site stray from its Realms focus. The fact that the question is even being asked is telling in of itself. |
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