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capnvan
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 Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 12:19:55
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"Saving a life, though regrettable, is a small price to pay for a whole lifetime of unfettered killing." |
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 12:59:29
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I demand full stats and fluff for the dreaded Were-Parsnip!
Marginally more seriously: I once had the distinguished honour of playing in a game (dunno if it was Realms or not) featuring a Were-Penguin. Somehow I doubt it was canonical in any published setting, but it was certainly amusing.
Actually being sensible now: Have Were-Ravens ever cropped up in the Realms? I know they flit about in Ravensloft, but how might one weave them into the grand tapestry of Faerun? |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 13:14:15
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Sorry for somehow sidetracking Mr. Greenwood's questions thread. I only wanted an answer about the "true weredragons", and if they could be only legend. Hall of Heroes introduced a lot of new, interesting werecreatures.
However, I don't know if I like the werebeast versions of magical beasts... Song dragons are not really werecreatures, and even the mystical lythari, as magical as they can be, are only wolves, so for me they are exceptions to the rule. But were-tressym, were-beholders, were-cathshee, were-unicorns... I think I'd never use something like that in my campaigns!
For someone that plays the 2e, I even think that a druid turning into a magical beast - like the Rillifane Rallathil druids that can shapechange into animal forms AND cath shee - are overly powerful. Of course, in 3e there are druids and wizards, IIRC, that are shapechanging specialists... For them, maybe changing into a magical beast would work. It depends, of course, on how much magic you allow in your game table.
Personally, I like to limit magic in my game settings, and so heighten the sense of wonder of my players when dealing with arcane or divine matters.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 04:41:59
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Since the were-beholder discussion in Ed's scroll, I've been tinkering with a few stat'd-possibilities for such beasties. They're nowhere near presentable at the moment, but it's been a lot of fun scouring the older D&D lycanthropic sources -- like Van Richten's Guide to Werebeasts -- for ideas I can borrow.  |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 05:43:36
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| I want a were flying serpent only because the regular variety is not good enough for emo pop shots |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 12:56:55
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| How about a weremimic doppelganger? |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 14:46:57
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Originally posted by Barastir
How about a weremimic doppelganger?
Great idea.
And I've been thinking about a Faerun-spanning organization of were-somethings, most of them arcane spellcasters of some kind. Werecats, werebats, wereeagles etc... |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 19:10:02
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Originally posted by Zireael
And I've been thinking about a Faerun-spanning organization of were-somethings, most of them arcane spellcasters of some kind. Werecats, werebats, wereeagles etc...
Zireael, I've found some werecreatures and shapechangers organizations in my books: in the 3rd edition "Silver Marches", in the "Black Fury" adventure, there are the Claw Hollow lycanthropes, and in the 2e FR "Book of Lairs", in the "Thylacines" entry, there are the "Sisters of the Green". Have you checked these sources?  |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 12:30:21
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I want stats for a wereflumph! 
What about a werewolf-in-sheep's-cloth? (Is that the name of the creature, right?)  |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 08:52:02
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Zireael
And I've been thinking about a Faerun-spanning organization of were-somethings, most of them arcane spellcasters of some kind. Werecats, werebats, wereeagles etc...
Zireael, I've found some werecreatures and shapechangers organizations in my books: in the 3rd edition "Silver Marches", in the "Black Fury" adventure, there are the Claw Hollow lycanthropes, and in the 2e FR "Book of Lairs", in the "Thylacines" entry, there are the "Sisters of the Green". Have you checked these sources?
I have Silver Marches, but haven't seen the 2e source. Thanks anyway! |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 12:21:45
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Originally posted by Zireael
I have Silver Marches, but haven't seen the 2e source. Thanks anyway!
The "Sisters of the Green" reference in the 2e FR "Book of Lairs" is just a passing one... Like one or two paragraphs, at most. I can send it to you, if you wish. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 16:23:56
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| I would suggest using the tibbit race in the Dragon Compendium as a basis for developing the were-tressym. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 21:38:43
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| If there are Plush Golems (see Dragon Magazine 228), why not wererabbits? |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
Edited by - Barastir on 30 Jul 2010 21:39:08 |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 22:07:42
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| A tibbit is actually a were-cat, that is why I suggested it as a model for the were-tressym. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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My game design work:
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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 12:24:47
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
A tibbit is actually a were-cat, that is why I suggested it as a model for the were-tressym.
Is a tibbit a different kind of werecat? Cause there are werecats in the 2e, specifically in the Hall of Heroes, in Kelemvor's entry (p. 36), and in the Powers & Pantheons, in the temple of Selūne's entry (p. 157). |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 19:49:04
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| When I DM my favourite is werepygmy, before I had players wanting to get infected. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 02:24:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
We have werecats described in an unofficial 3.0 source... Check out the Realms Bestiary, Volumes 1 & 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa.
And we have werecats in an official source too, Monster of Faerun 3.X. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 03:25:19
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Originally posted by Barastir
Is a tibbit a different kind of werecat? Cause there are werecats in the 2e, specifically in the Hall of Heroes, in Kelemvor's entry (p. 36), and in the Powers & Pantheons, in the temple of Selūne's entry (p. 157).
I believe that the Tibbit was introduced in a 2e issue of Dragon and was then converted to 3.5 in the Dragon Compendium. |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 08:56:02
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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir
Is a tibbit a different kind of werecat? Cause there are werecats in the 2e, specifically in the Hall of Heroes, in Kelemvor's entry (p. 36), and in the Powers & Pantheons, in the temple of Selūne's entry (p. 157).
I believe that the Tibbit was introduced in a 2e issue of Dragon and was then converted to 3.5 in the Dragon Compendium.
Do you remember the issue, or ca which period of Dragon? |
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wintermute27
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 16:41:27
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| Ah thanks, found it. Reading through the article (which is actually very late 1st ed.)it seems like it is a cat-were, not a werecat. The difference being that it is like the Jackalwere and Wolfwere, an animal able to take human shape. But it seems to me that it would be more correct to view it as more of a fiendish cat-creature, with its heritage and abilities to gate and plane shift. |
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wintermute27
Learned Scribe
USA
179 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 16:58:18
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| In the Players Guide to Faerun Web Enhancement it gives 3.5 updates to the werecat stats "listed" in Mosters of Faerun, but I don't see the 3.0 stats in that book. Am I missing something here? |
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Stormlord
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 21:56:14
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Greetings,
Statistics for Werecats may also be found in Lost Empires of Faerūn (pg. 180). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2010 : 07:28:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by wintermute27
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Do you remember the issue, or ca which period of Dragon?
According to this wonderful site, It can be found in Dragon #135, pg.14
(for those of you interested, here is a similar site for Dungeon magazine)
For Dragon, I myself rely on The DragonDex.
Whoa! Awesome site Wooly. Can't believe i havent heard of this before |
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Were-Tressym Speculation, et al.
