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Ashe Ravenheart
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 Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 16:13:01
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The nominations have been announced!
Congratulations to all the nominees, especially to Paizo (14 nominees, Product of the Year/Best Game for Pathfinder), Catalyst Game Labs (9 Nominees, including 2 Product of the Year nominations for Eclipse Phase and Shadowrun-20th Anniversary edition-also a Game of the Year nominee) and Wizards of the Coast (5 nominees, including Best Supplement - PHB3 & Rebellion Era Campaign).
Voting begins next Friday!
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 16:24:04
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Complete list of nominations:
Best Cover Art
* Eclipse Phase (Catalyst Game Labs Posthuman Studios)
* Pathfinder Bestiary (Paizo Publishing)
* Rogue Trader Core Rulebook (Fantasy Flight Games)
* Trail of Cthulhu: Rough Magicks (Pelgrane Press)
* WFRP: The Gathering Storm (Fantasy Flight Games)
* HM: Star Wars: The Unknown Regions (Wizards of the Coast)
Best Interior Art
* Escape from Tentacle City (Willow Palecek)
* Pathfinder Core Rulebook (Paizo Publishing)
* Rogue Trader Core Rulebook (Fantasy Flight Games)
* Shadowrun - 20th Anniversary Ed. (Catalyst Game Labs)
* Warhammer Fantasy RPG (Fantasy Flight Games)
* HM: Hero 6th Edition (Hero Games)
Best Cartography
* Aces and Eights: Judas Crossing (Kenzer & Company)
* Dungeon of Terror Virtual Box Set (0one Games)
* Maps of Mastery: Swamp Caves (Maps of Mastery)
* Pathfinder City Map Folio (Paizo Publishing)
* Revenge of the Giants (Wizards of the Coast)
* HM: Death Frost Doom (Lamentation of the Flame Princess)
Best Writing
* Eclipse Phase (Catalyst Game Labs & Posthuman Studios)
* FantasyCraft (Crafty Games)
* How We Came to Live Here (Galileo Games)
* Kerberos Club (Cubicle 7)
* Victoriana 2nd Edtion (Cubicle 7)
* HM: Colonial Gothic (Rogue Games)
Best Production Values
* Eclipse Phase (Catalyst Game Labs & Posthuman Studios)
* Pathfinder Core Rulebook (Paizo Publishing)
* Rogue Trader Core Rulebook (Fantasy Flight Games)
* Shadowrun - 20th Anniversary Ed. (Catalyst Game Labs)
* Warhammer Fantasy RPG (Fantasy Flight Games)
* HM: Mysteries of the Hollow Earth (Exile Game Studio)
Best Rules
* Atomic Highway (Radioactive Ape Designs)
* BASH Ultimate Edition (Basic Action Games)
* Diaspora (VSCA)
* Hero 6th Edition (Hero Games)
* Wild Talents 2nd Edition (Cubicle 7)
* HM: Earthdawn 3rd Edition, Player's Guide (RedBrick LLC)
Best Adventure
* The Grinding Gear (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)
* Pathfinder AP#31: Stolen Land (Paizo Publishing)
* A Song of Ice and Fire: Peril at King’s Landing (Green Ronin)
* Trail of Cthulhu: The Armitage Files (Pelgrane Press)
* WFRP: The Gathering Storm (Fantasy Flight Games)
* HM:Trail of Cthulhu: Shadows over Filmland (Pelgrane Press)
Best Monster or Adversary
* Aces and Eights: Rustlers & Townsfolk (Kenzer and Company)
* Hellfrost Bestiary (Cubicle 7)
* Pathfinder Bestiary (Paizo Publishing)
* Pathfinder: Classic Horrors Revisited (Paizo Publishing)
* Supernatural: Guide to the Hunted (Margaret Weis Productions)
* HM: Fey Folio: The Unseelie Court (Alluria Publishing)
Best Setting
* Day After Ragnarok (Atomic Overmind Press)
* Goblin Markets (White Wolf Publishing)
* Kerberos Club (Cubicle 7)
* Judge Dredd (Mongoose Publishing)
* Rome: Life and Death of the Republic (Cubicle 7)
* HM: Shadowrun: Seattle 2072 (Catylst Game Labs)
Best Supplement
* Lucha Libre Hero (Hero Games)
* Mysteries of the Hollow Earth (Exile Game Studio)
* Nobis: The City-States (Pantheon Press)
* Player’s Handbook 3 (Wizards of the Coast)
* Rebellion Era Campaign Guide (Wizards of the Coast)
* HM: Cthulhutech: Damnation View (WildFire)
Best Aid or Accessory
* Battlegraph Dry Erase Boards (Longtooth Studios)
* Campaign Coins (King of the Castle Games Paizo Publishing)
* Gaming Paper (Gaming Paper)
* Hero Lab v3.6 (Lone Wolf Development)
* Pathfinder GM#8200;Screen (Paizo Publishing)
* HM: A Song of Ice and Fire Narrator's Kit (Green Ronin)
Best Miniatures Product
* Alkemy Minis (Kraken Editions)
* D&D Minis (Wizards of the Coast)
* Fortress of Redemption (Games Workshop)
* Gaming Paper (Gaming Paper)
* Maps of Mastery: Swamp Caves (Maps of Mastery)
* HM: Battlegraph Dry Erase Boards (Longtooth Studios)
Best Regalia
* Battletech: 25 Years of Art and Fiction (Catalyst Game Labs)
* Buried Tales of Pine Box, Texas (12 to Midnight)
* Cthulhu 101 (Atomic Overmind Press)
* Grind (Privateer Press)
* Three Dragon Ante: Emperor's Gambit (Wizards of the Coast)
* HM: Best of All Flesh (Elder Signs Press)
Best Electronic Book
* The Great City Player’s Guide (0one Games)
* Heroes of the Jade Oath BETA (Rite Publishing)
* To Kill Or Not To Kill (Rite Publishing)
* Pathfinder Society Scenario #29: The Devil We Know Part 1: Shipyard Rats (Paizo Publishing)
* Shambles (A Terrible Idea)
* HM: Fey Folio: The Unseelie Court (Alluria Publishing)
Best Free Product
* Advanced Players Guide Playtest (Paizo Publishing)
* Combat Advantage #15 (Emerald Press)
* Lady Blackbird (one.seven Design)
* Warriors Adventure Game (HarperCollins Children's Books)
* Wayfinder #1 (Paizo Fans United)
* HM: Hexographer (Inkwell Ideas)
Best Website
* d20PFSRD.com
* Epic Words
* Obsidian Portal
* Pathfinder Wiki
* Pen & Paper Games
* HM: Hexographer
Best Podcast
* All Games Considered
* Atomic Array
* NewbieDM.com Minicast
* Open Design
* Power Source
* HM: The Gamer’s Haven Podcast
Best Blog
* Critical Hits
* Gnome Stew
* Kobold Quarterly
* NewbieDM.com
* One Geek to Another
* HM: Sarah Darkmagic
Best Game
* Dragon Age: Set 1 (Green Ronin)
* Hero 6th Edition (Hero Games)
* Pathfinder (Paizo Publishing)
* Shadowrun - 20th Anniversary Ed. (Catalyst Game Labs)
* Wild Talents 2nd Edition (Cubicle 7)
* HM: Labyrinth Lord (Goblinoid Games)
Product of the Year
* Doctor Who (Cubicle 7)
* Dragon Age: Set 1 (Green Ronin)
* Eclipse Phase (Catalyst Game Labs & Posthuman Studios)
* Geist the Sin-Eaters (White Wolf Publishing)
* Kerberos Club (Cubicle 7)
* Pathfinder (Paizo Publishing)
* Rome: Life and Death of the Republic (Cubicle 7)
* Shadowrun - 20th Anniversary Ed. (Catalyst Game Labs)
* Warhammer Fantasy RPG (Fantasy Flight Games)
* Wild Talents 2nd Edition (Cubicle 7)
* HM: FantasyCraft (Crafty Games)
* HM: Savage Suzerain (Cubicle 7)
Editorial Opinion I find it interesting that WotC did not make the list for Product of the Year, Eberron was not mentioned in Best Setting and the only 4th Edition books that made it were the PHB3 and the Return of the Giants adventure. No one doubts that they are outselling their competition, but remember this: James Cameron may have made more money, but his ex-wife got the Oscar...
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 21:21:05
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| Is it just me, or is it mildly amusing that Paizo Fans United and Paizo are competing with each other in the free category? |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 21:37:17
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Is it just me, or is it mildly amusing that Paizo Fans United and Paizo are competing with each other in the free category?
Even more so compared to who's not there with them |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 21:43:03
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Is it just me, or is it mildly amusing that Paizo Fans United and Paizo are competing with each other in the free category?
Or that d20PFSRD.com and the Pathfinder Wiki are in the same competition?  |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
746 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 12:12:39
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
No one doubts that they are outselling their competition,
We don't have any concrete figures either way, so are they really?  Has Paizo been laying people off in the last year?
What I found interesting is the mention of Dragon Age by Green Ronin. Has that got anything to do with the VG, or vice versa? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 15:20:45
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| WotC, by simple virtue of name and owning D&D, is still the biggest kid on the block. Which makes it surprising that they are so under-represented on this list... One could easily couple that with the continuing layoffs at WotC and paint a not-so-rosy picture of their current situation. |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 20:21:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
No one doubts that they are outselling their competition,
We don't have any concrete figures either way, so are they really? Has Paizo been laying people off in the last year?
What I found interesting is the mention of Dragon Age by Green Ronin. Has that got anything to do with the VG, or vice versa?
The vast majority of the contributors to Paizo and Pathfinder are freelancers, that includes most of the rules set. I haven't kept track of employee numbers, but my impression is that WotC relied more on in-house staff for the development and first years of 4E. The people they let go recently seemed mostly involved with that development. Now that 4E is established, WotC may be switching to a more freelance-based, commission-as-needed approach to keep their payroll reasonable (corporate-friendly).
The Dragon Age RPG is based on the VG/CRPG by Bioware.
I think this highlights the crowded field pen and paper RPGs are competing in nowadays. While video games are the primary product of their respective franchises, looking at this from a pen & paper perspective, the video games are multimillion dollar ad campaigns as well as massive art/media/lore wellspring for the pen & paper version of the game. It is more difficult for a pen & paper company to provide the same quantity and prevalence of art and media promotion for a product with a slimmer margin.
That is unless they utilize a more "indie" approach with lower overhead and their fan community take on some of the promoting for them. Or the company "sells out" to make the video game (it has to be a good video game) the primary franchise product with the pen & paper game as a secondary. |
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Qwilion
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 09:18:23
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paizo fans vs. paizo
d20PFSRD.com vs. Pathfinder Wiki
WotC
Don't be too amused. My company is competing against itself in Best Electronic Book. (Rite Publishing) for Heroes of the Jade Oath and To Kill or Not to Kill. Nominations are about what companies submit, and what products they submit. The Fans submit, Paizo Submits, the guy who runs d20PfSRD.com submits, and the guy who runs Pathfinder Wiki submits and then the Judges select the nominations.
It should be no surprise that Paizo puts out a quality product, and the folks who are fans of Paizo (who in reality are a lot of their freelancers) who emulate that same quality get selected.
What makes me crazy is the company crap, why is it the name of the product and the company name
Why is it not the name of the author, designer, artist, developer, Cartographer, Wizards of the Coast did not create a great map or write and awesome supplement.
It just bugs the hell out of me
Frank Carr wrote Heroes of the Jade Oath
I wrote to Kill or Not to Kill
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 11:19:06
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Originally posted by Qwilion
paizo fans vs. paizo
d20PFSRD.com vs. Pathfinder Wiki
WotC
Don't be too amused. My company is competing against itself in Best Electronic Book. (Rite Publishing) for Heroes of the Jade Oath and To Kill or Not to Kill. Nominations are about what companies submit, and what products they submit. The Fans submit, Paizo Submits, the guy who runs d20PfSRD.com submits, and the guy who runs Pathfinder Wiki submits and then the Judges select the nominations.
It should be no surprise that Paizo puts out a quality product, and the folks who are fans of Paizo (who in reality are a lot of their freelancers) who emulate that same quality get selected.
What makes me crazy is the company crap, why is it the name of the product and the company name
Why is it not the name of the author, designer, artist, developer, Cartographer, Wizards of the Coast did not create a great map or write and awesome supplement.
It just bugs the hell out of me
Frank Carr wrote Heroes of the Jade Oath
I wrote to Kill or Not to Kill
Because most people don't look at who wrote something. Gaming products are put out by gaming companies, not by individuals. There are not a lot of people in the gaming industry that can sell something on the strength of their name alone. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Qwilion
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 12:49:25
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"Because most people don't look at who wrote something. Gaming products are put out by gaming companies, not by individuals. There are not a lot of people in the gaming industry that can sell something on the strength of their name alone."
This is an awards ceremony and has nothing to do with selling the most copies, To Kill or Not to Kill would never qualify in that category its the second part of an adventure path for an out of print system.
And when you nominating something for best cartography, you talking about the cartographer.
My point being people might start looking at who did what if people started pointing it out.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 14:20:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Qwilion
"Because most people don't look at who wrote something. Gaming products are put out by gaming companies, not by individuals. There are not a lot of people in the gaming industry that can sell something on the strength of their name alone."
This is an awards ceremony and has nothing to do with selling the most copies, To Kill or Not to Kill would never qualify in that category its the second part of an adventure path for an out of print system.
And when you nominating something for best cartography, you talking about the cartographer.
My point being people might start looking at who did what if people started pointing it out.
Yeah, but you're still missing my point. I never mentioned number of copies sold. I'm talking about the fact that Gaming Product X isn't being sold by Designer Y, it's sold by Company Z.
Something nominated for best cartography might have had more than one cartographer working on it. Ditto for any written material. Unless one individual did all the writing, editing, cartography, design, layout, printing, and shipping, then the product is something that was done by a company -- therefore, the company gets the credit. There are very few products that are solely the result of one person's work -- most everything is done by a team. In most cases, you can't single out the work of any one individual.
So again, gaming products are put out by gaming companies, not by individuals. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 15:38:27
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What Wooly says about multiple writers is especially true about Paizo Fans United, I think there must be at least 30 names there (and, incidentally, not all of us are Paizo's freelancers, however much we'd like to be).
And what I found amusing about Paizo competing against PFU is the idea of the fans potentially beating the object of their fandom. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 17:07:58
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Originally posted by Kajehase
What Wooly says about multiple writers is especially true about Paizo Fans United, I think there must be at least 30 names there (and, incidentally, not all of us are Paizo's freelancers, however much we'd like to be).
And what I found amusing about Paizo competing against PFU is the idea of the fans potentially beating the object of their fandom.
Which is very possible since most of the people working at Paizo will vote for PFU. |
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Edited by - Ashe Ravenheart on 17 Jul 2010 17:08:28 |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 03:41:24
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And the winners:
Gold Best Website - Obsidian Portal
Silver Best Website - D20PFSrs
Gold Best Podcast - Atomic Array
Silver Best Podcast - All Games Considered
Gold Best Blog - Kobold Quarterly
Silver Best Blog - Gnome Stew
Gold Best Art, Cover - Pathfinder Bestiary
Silver Best Art, Cover - Eclipse Phase
Gold Best Art, Interior - Pathfinder Core Rulebook
Silver Best Art, Interior - Shadowrun 20Th Anniversary Ed
Gold Best Cartography - Pathfinder City Map Folio
Silver Best Cartography - Aces And Eights: Judas Crossing
Gold Best Production Values - Pathfinder Core Rulebook
Silver Best Production Values - Shadowrun 20Th Anniversary Ed
Gold Best Writing - Eclipse Phase
Silver Best Writing - Victoriana 2nd Ed
Gold Best Rules - Diaspora
Silver Best Rules - Hero 6th Edition
Gold Best Free Product - Advanced Players Guide Playtest
Silver Best Free Product - Lady Blackbird
Gold Best Electronic Book - The Great City Players Guide
Silver Best Electronic Book - The Devil We Know Part One: Shipyard Rats
Gold Best Aid Or Accessory - Pathfinder GM Screen
Silver Best Aid Or Accessory - Gaming Paper
Gold Best Miniatures Product - D&D Minis
Silver Best Miniature Product - Gaming Paper
Gold Best Rpg Related Product - Cthulhu 101
Silver Best Rpg Related Product - Battletech: 25 Years Of Art And Fiction
Gold Best Adventure - Pathfinder #31
Silver Best Adventure - Trail Of Cthlhu: The Armitage Files
Gold Best Monster/Adversary - Pathfinder Bestiary
Silver Best Monster/Adversary - Pathfinder Classic Heroes Revisited
Gold Best Setting - Day After Ragnarok
Silver Best Setting - Rome: Life And Death In The Republic
Gold Best Supplement - Mysteries Of The Hollow Earth
Silver Best Supplement - Player'S Handbook 3
Gold Best Game - Pathfinder
Silver Best Game - Shadowrun 20th Anniversary Ed
Gold Product Of The Year - Pathfinder
Silver Product Of The Year - Eclipse Phase
Gold Fans Choice Best Publisher - Paizo Publishing
Silver Fans Choice Best Publisher - Fantasy Flight Games
Congrats to Paizo and Catalyst on their terrific number of wins! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 04:41:09
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| Eclipse Phase is awesome, so I'm glad to see it win something, given the absolute domination inflicted by Paizo on the awards this year. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2010 : 14:13:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There are not a lot of people in the gaming industry that can sell something on the strength of their name alone.
This is a bad state of affairs, and it's the direct result of the industry culture of marginalizing authors which the ENnies are complicit in.
Yes, RPG books tend to have multiple designers, developers, cartographers etc. more than most other kinds, but they still usually have one or a few primary authors -- films are far more collaborative, yet are rightly credited to their directors. RPG publishers have downplayed authors consistently for decades -- sometimes to the extent of leaving their names off the cover -- in favour of brands, logos and trademarks they control. (With direct effect in the publication history of the Realms! Consider how much writing, consulting and library work Ed Greenwood, one of the top names in the field, has to do to earn a living, while Wizards uses his name as a brand.) I feel strongly that this inversion denies RPG authors the recognition and income they deserve, and to misframe primary creators as publisher functionaries artistically diminishes and holds back the whole field.
Unlike the ENnies, other RPG awards, such as the Diana Jones Award, give creators the rightful prominence they'd have in any respected medium. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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2010 Ennie Awards!
