just wanting to know when in the timeline the shift would have been from 2nd ed to 3rd ed?
If anyone knows that would be great
"Use yer heads! A barnyard goose tastes better 'an a wild one cause it don't use its muscles. The same oughta hold true for a giant's brains!" Bruenor Battlehammer
Return of Shade time - Year of Wild Magic, as stated by Ashe and capnvan. Also remember that it is also stated that mechanics wise, it was always like that (retconned so that even before 1372 characters operate the same way - unlike the 1E to 2E change and the 3E to 4E change where the mechanics change with the world.