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Snowblood
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 :  16:44:46  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Dear Fellow scribes, not having read the drow wars of Lady Penitent novels....can any one tell me which were the Drow houses with links back to old Miyeritar???????

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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  01:08:41  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
House Elpragh, possibly, and also possibly whatever houses the other members of the School of Ancient Arcana were members of. Although I guess they could be descended from a Miyeritar house but not be a member of that house still. (through breeding, joining other houses, etc.) And whoever the other council member had a teluu'kiira coming to him/her (I forget).

Edited by - MrHedgehog on 27 Dec 2009 01:10:37
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kysus
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  01:37:38  Show Profile  Visit kysus's Homepage Send kysus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm. I wouldnt mind seeing some stuff on syorpiir, thearnytaar,Eiellur, or orishaar. maybe even some of the drow realms before the fall would be cool too, but thats just my thoughts.
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Zanan
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Posted - 28 Dec 2009 :  10:14:47  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's hardly any mention of this. You have to take into consideration that more than 11,000 years have passed since the decline of Miyeritar and while some strange magic may be able to trace even the thinnest vein of Miyeritar or "loyal" Eilistraeen blood in some drow of nowadays, we have no such help. So simply saying that this chap or lass who were converted to a pre-Descent "Dark Elf" by the happenings in LP belongs to an ancient Miyeritar "house" would be somewhat far fetched. For ... it might just be that in said person's CV there was someone who belonged to a Miyeritar house or someone who was just a devoted follower of the Dark Maiden. Of course, the Eilistraeens as such are not exactly known to follow the "house" hierarchy and society anyways. Thus, old Miyeritar may (!) have looked much like other ancient elven realms. It would be a good option to ask the designers of the Realms (Greenwood, Boyd) and especially the old elven realms (Cormanthyr - Empire of Elves) directly.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Here's my thoughts- take it for what it is. I am working on the assumption that most of the Miyeritar dark elves would have come from two or three places. Obviously, House Melarn was one, and possibly Elpraugh, as stated earlier. My guess is that the drow of Ched Nasad (and by extension, Menzoberranzn) are at least partly Miyeritar descent. It makes sense, given that both cities sit near or in lands below where that kingdom would have been. Sshamath might have ties as well, sinse House Elpraugh is mentioned. So it is feasible that at least a few of the Noble Houses of any of those cities (Do'Urden or *gasp* Beanre, anyone?) might have some Miyeritar blood. The drow of the Promenade and perhaps a few in Skullport might be included, as well.

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Zireael
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 :  20:07:56  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've also wondered about this, and found a mention of a clan Hune once. My question, is Valas Hune from WotSQ their descendant?

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Alystra Illianniis
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I believe so. As far as I know, there is only one such House, so anyone with that name would most likely be a descendant, or have been adopted into it.

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Brimstone
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Lyrna of House Fathomlin. Dragon 373(DDI). The Ecology of the Sharn Article by Brian R. James. It's not a free article. I don't think she was a Dark Elf.

Yes he canonized a member of this community.


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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Lyrna of House Fathomlin. Dragon 373(DDI). The Ecology of the Sharn Article by Brian R. James. It's not a free article. I don't think she was a Dark Elf.

Yes he canonized a member of this community.





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Lady Fellshot
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Posted - 13 Apr 2010 :  01:25:41  Show Profile  Visit Lady Fellshot's Homepage Send Lady Fellshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

I've also wondered about this, and found a mention of a clan Hune once. My question, is Valas Hune from WotSQ their descendant?



I don't think so. Hune is the short form of Valas's clan name Orzzl'Hune. Rather like "Do'Urden" is the shorthand for Daermon N'a'shezbaernon (the older version of the house name).

It also isn't inconceivable that someone borrowed the surname for the prestige either since a lot of time has passed between the current Realms and the Crown Wars.

Edited by - Lady Fellshot on 13 Apr 2010 01:28:43
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George Krashos
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I created a Miyeritari noble house in GHotR. See the "snippet" for the date of the Descent of the Drow.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Lyrna of House Fathomlin. Dragon 373(DDI). The Ecology of the Sharn Article by Brian R. James. It's not a free article. I don't think she was a Dark Elf.

Yes he canonized a member of this community.





I have a road named after me.

I'm partially canonised, thanks to some lore from Krash, posted here at Candlekeep -- as the Sage Operth.

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Alystra Illianniis
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LOL, you're such a saint, oh great Sage!!!

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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Duneth Despana
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Lyrna of House Fathomlin. Dragon 373(DDI). The Ecology of the Sharn Article by Brian R. James. It's not a free article. I don't think she was a Dark Elf.

Yes he canonized a member of this community.





I have a road named after me.



Awesome! Which one?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Lyrna of House Fathomlin. Dragon 373(DDI). The Ecology of the Sharn Article by Brian R. James. It's not a free article. I don't think she was a Dark Elf.

Yes he canonized a member of this community.





I have a road named after me.



Awesome! Which one?




Rupert's Way. On the map that was part of the "Backdrop: Cormyr" article, it connects Iraebor with Berdusk.

I had assumed it was a coincidence, but Brian R James said otherwise.

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