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Aravine
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  15:26:59  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
in the stormwrack book, they list an aquatic human species. iforgot what they are called. in any case, my question is since they have human blood, does that mean they get the extra skill point and feat?

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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  16:02:40  Show Profile  Visit sirreus's Homepage Send sirreus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if they are a subrace like genasi or tieflings then no. human blood does not = human.

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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  16:04:43  Show Profile  Visit Ugly is the new black's Homepage Send Ugly is the new black a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aravine

i forgot what they are called.


Mermaids, imo.

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Aravine
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  16:49:04  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no, they literatly are humans exept they have tiny fins on their arms and legs. they are aventi or something like that

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Aravine
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  16:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sirreus

if they are a subrace like genasi or tieflings then no. human blood does not = human.


it says for all effects immunities and weaknesses they are considered human

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I'd say they would get the human stats then but maybe write into the WOTC sage are get a official answer?

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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 :  14:28:37  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
does anyone even know of the book, storm wrack?

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quote:
Originally posted by aravine

does anyone even know of the book, storm wrack?



Aye, I've referenced it on and off for my email game when I need some aquatic info and or random scenes that could be seen while sailing.

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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  15:43:26  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by aravine

does anyone even know of the book, storm wrack?



Aye, I've referenced it on and off for my email game when I need some aquatic info and or random scenes that could be seen while sailing.



Then you know the Aventi?

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by aravine

does anyone even know of the book, storm wrack?



Aye, I've referenced it on and off for my email game when I need some aquatic info and or random scenes that could be seen while sailing.



Then you know the Aventi?



Not really. Never looked at the human types in the book. :) But as I said above, if it's just a normal human that has adapted to water, I see no reason why it won't get the human stat abilities but as I also said, maybe ask the WOTC Sage for a official answer.

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Aravine
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  17:01:47  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
will do.

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To be honest, when it comes to questions about non-Realms stuff, you may be better off asking Sage Advice (or on the general WotC forums), rather than asking here. While many of us do have the core material, we're all here because of a focus on the Realms -- be it the lore, or be it Realms-specific books and materials. It's always best to know your audience, and we are, primarily, Realms first and everything else second.

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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  15:19:47  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

To be honest, when it comes to questions about non-Realms stuff, you may be better off asking Sage Advice (or on the general WotC forums), rather than asking here. While many of us do have the core material, we're all here because of a focus on the Realms -- be it the lore, or be it Realms-specific books and materials. It's always best to know your audience, and we are, primarily, Realms first and everything else second.



who do i ask?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

To be honest, when it comes to questions about non-Realms stuff, you may be better off asking Sage Advice (or on the general WotC forums), rather than asking here. While many of us do have the core material, we're all here because of a focus on the Realms -- be it the lore, or be it Realms-specific books and materials. It's always best to know your audience, and we are, primarily, Realms first and everything else second.



who do i ask?



Either Sage Advice on the Wizards site, or, for the WotC forums, in the General section.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 :  00:50:45  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For what its worth though, there is nothing in the race description that mentions the aventi getting the standard human bonus feat or skill points, but it does mention that they have the "human" subtype, and are considered human for the purposes of spells and magic items that react to humans. That is slightly different than just being humans that happen to breathe water. Aventi were humans, but they are changed.

However, since they are considered human, they can take feats that only humans can take, etc.

At least that's my read on it.
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