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Penknight Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 20:20:49
I just recently found this thread talking about an aasimar paragon for 3.5, and one of the gentlemen that assisted in writing Unearthed Arcana even responded with a version of the class. The only thing I'm wondering is... what would the aasimar class skills be? If someone could help me out with this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!


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Lord Karsus Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 17:41:03
quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

I still can't technically understand why the paragon classes were created to begin with, really.


-Me neither.
Hawkins Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 16:09:40
quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

I really appreciate all of the hard work in figuring this out, Hawkins. I was never any good at coming up with PrCs or skills to go with new classes. How did you decide on the ten skills that you listed if I may ask?
I took out the skills that the Paragon Tiefling got from the Rogue class and added in skills from the Paladin class since that is the favored class of the Aasimar.
quote:
Originally posted by freyar

Unearthed Arcana. However, many (all?) of them are Open Gaming Content, and you can find them on the online SRD sites, like the Hypertext SRD or the Sovelier-Sage SRD. Note that this content isn't actually in the SRD from WotC, but it is open and has been typed in byothers.
Of the two you mentioned, I prefer the Hypertext SRD personally.
freyar Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 15:39:26
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Where can I find these paragon classes? I'm looking for a dwarf paragon more specifically...



Unearthed Arcana. However, many (all?) of them are Open Gaming Content, and you can find them on the online SRD sites, like the Hypertext SRD or the Sovelier-Sage SRD. Note that this content isn't actually in the SRD from WotC, but it is open and has been typed in by others.
Purple Dragon Knight Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 13:28:30
quote:
Originally posted by Penknight

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-I never particularly liked the concept of the 'X Paragon' class.

I still can't technically understand why the paragon classes were created to begin with, really. I saw all the other paragon classes and wondered why the aasimar wasn't listed when the tiefling was. I thought I'd give the paragon a once over and try it out on my character now that she's hit epic level. Just about time to retire her... *disconsolate sigh*

Where can I find these paragon classes? I'm looking for a dwarf paragon more specifically...
Penknight Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 01:53:37
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

I'll work on it and get back to you.

EDIT:
quote:
Originally posted by WotC_Andy

In addition to the PH base races, we included a few races that we felt were flavorful and interesting, particularly as "villains." Hence orcs, drow, tieflings, and half-dragons.

We didn't even try to include everything that we could think of--there's no goblin paragon in there, for example--at some point, we just had to move on to the next topic.

I'd probably give aasimar full BAB, all good saves, improved resistance (acid, cold, or electricity) at 1st, daylight 3/day and another +2 on Spot/Listen at 2nd, and a Cha boost at 3rd level.

That's basically identical to the tiefling's progression, except for the better BAB (I think Dex is better than Cha, so it seems fair to me). The BAB matches their martial nature. It's OK for the LA +1 or better races to have a more potent paragon class, as noted in the sidebar on p. 46.

I'd also allow free multiclassing with paladin (honestly, I think that all the paragon classes shouldn't ever trigger penalties for multiclassing, even with monk or paladin, but I have only myself to blame for that not being in there).
In addition to what WotC_Andy said, I would give it the following skills: Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (the planes) (Int), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Listen (Wis), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Sense Motive (Wis), and Spot (Wis).

I really appreciate all of the hard work in figuring this out, Hawkins. I was never any good at coming up with PrCs or skills to go with new classes. How did you decide on the ten skills that you listed if I may ask?
Penknight Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 01:51:51
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-I never particularly liked the concept of the 'X Paragon' class.

I still can't technically understand why the paragon classes were created to begin with, really. I saw all the other paragon classes and wondered why the aasimar wasn't listed when the tiefling was. I thought I'd give the paragon a once over and try it out on my character now that she's hit epic level. Just about time to retire her... *disconsolate sigh*
Lord Karsus Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 23:45:07
-I never particularly liked the concept of the 'X Paragon' class.
Hawkins Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 22:16:48
I'll work on it and get back to you.

EDIT:
quote:
Originally posted by WotC_Andy

In addition to the PH base races, we included a few races that we felt were flavorful and interesting, particularly as "villains." Hence orcs, drow, tieflings, and half-dragons.

We didn't even try to include everything that we could think of--there's no goblin paragon in there, for example--at some point, we just had to move on to the next topic.

I'd probably give aasimar full BAB, all good saves, improved resistance (acid, cold, or electricity) at 1st, daylight 3/day and another +2 on Spot/Listen at 2nd, and a Cha boost at 3rd level.

That's basically identical to the tiefling's progression, except for the better BAB (I think Dex is better than Cha, so it seems fair to me). The BAB matches their martial nature. It's OK for the LA +1 or better races to have a more potent paragon class, as noted in the sidebar on p. 46.

I'd also allow free multiclassing with paladin (honestly, I think that all the paragon classes shouldn't ever trigger penalties for multiclassing, even with monk or paladin, but I have only myself to blame for that not being in there).
In addition to what WotC_Andy said, I would give it the following skills: Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (the planes) (Int), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Listen (Wis), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Sense Motive (Wis), and Spot (Wis).
Dracons Posted - 01 Jul 2008 : 20:28:19
Hmm. Not really sure.

Diplomacy, Sense Motive for sure. Possibly Spot, Listen, Heal, Know: Religion/Planes. Those would be my best guess.

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