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| Synthalus |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 12:50:58
We all know Karsus was a power hungry Archwizard from the time of netheril but would you consider him a genuis for what he attempted or a Idiot. |
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| Dennis |
Posted - 12 Feb 2011 : 06:21:06
I don't either, but they must have had some, or at least one. The phaerimm in the ARCANE AGE trilogy implied they had a deity when it said [referring to Mystryl] something like, "It's not one of ours." |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 12:07:52
I don't recall hearing specific mention of a Phaerimm deity.
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| Dennis |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 03:09:43
Speaking of phaerimm and gods, who are the phaerimm's gods? Do they worship them at all? In the ARCANE AGE trilogy, when one of them commented about a goddess giving visions [warnings] to Sunbright, another said that it's not their [the phaerimm's] deity, but one of the human's. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 03:06:02
quote:
Originally posted by Arik
So is the question who would win in a Talos vs Mystra/Karsus throwdown?
No. It was more like an assumption that Netheril would not have fallen had Karsus chosen to absorb Talos or Shar, or any of the greater deities that time whose power would help him exterminate the phaerimm and save the empire. |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 02:34:15
The phaerimm have no divine rank. If Talos (or any other god) chose to exterminate their race then he would eventually succeed, assuming no other gods intervened.
I don't understand why Talos was mentioned anyhow. There's no question that Talos (as a god) is more powerful than mortal Netheril, and again could eventually destroy it if no other gods intervened. So is the question who would win in a Talos vs Mystra/Karsus throwdown? |
| Dennis |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 01:31:37
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
I think he may have meant Jergal.
And didn't Talos have that one lightning bolt spell that could kill anything short of a greater god, regardless of defense?
Haven't seen Talos throw lightning bolts at the phaerimm, so I can't really say if the phaerimm's magic-absorbing ability would work against him. In Crucible: The Trial of Cyric The Mad, I remember Mystra once denied Talos of access to the Weave. Which, if I'm not mistaken, means he's more or less dependent on the Weave's magic. And if his power is Weave-based, or most of it, then the phaerimm might be able to defend themselves. |
| jordanz |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 01:25:00
quote:
Originally posted by Synthalus
We all know Karsus was a power hungry Archwizard from the time of netheril but would you consider him a genuis for what he attempted or a Idiot.
Both, a genius for almost pulling it off but an idiot for thinking he could get away with it with no consequences. High intelligence combined with piss poor wisdom. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 01:16:02
I think he may have meant Jergal.
And didn't Talos have that one lightning bolt spell that could kill anything short of a greater god, regardless of defense? |
| Dennis |
Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 00:06:24
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren
He should have chose Nergal. Pointing at someone and saying "DIE"
would have been much cleaner for the realms, and we would have got
to play with 10,11, and 12th level spells.
The archdevil or the deity? The former was a puny devil even Alassra managed to hurt badly, and the latter was just a lesser deity, which would not interest Karsus. The genius archwizard needed a very powerful god to exterminate the phaerimm once and for all. Maybe Talos. But the phaerimm could easily absorb lightning and all his favored arsenal. Perhaps it should have been Shar, as the phaerimm are vulnerable to shadow magic. |
| althen artren |
Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 23:47:11
He should have chose Nergal. Pointing at someone and saying "DIE"
would have been much cleaner for the realms, and we would have got
to play with 10,11, and 12th level spells. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 23:43:30
Which is what I ended up voting for. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 23:42:29
There's Other. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 23:18:37
I'm disappointed that "both" isn't an option. He was brilliant, there's no denying that. But he had no common sense whatsoever. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 23:14:49
Genius is winning. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 04 Feb 2011 : 13:42:24
quote:
Originally posted by Synthalus
Wow its a dead lock between idiot and genuis.
Funny how people can be both. High INT score and low WIS score |
| Synthalus |
Posted - 04 Feb 2011 : 12:49:21
Wow its a dead lock between idiot and genuis. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 04 Feb 2011 : 12:12:33
Hey there are far too many people voting him as an idiot 
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| BARDOBARBAROS |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 21:42:52
idiot |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 18:14:23
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
quote:
Originally posted by GRYPHON
Idiot...
Me or Karsus?? 
Pretty sure that was Gryphon's vote, since it is one of the choices, and Gryphon has a habit of rather short posts.
Oops lol I overlooked that particular option in the voting (because Karsus is so not an idiot), so I thought it just followed up on my last post. Makes more sense now. My bad  |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 17:44:44
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
quote:
Originally posted by GRYPHON
Idiot...
Me or Karsus??
Pretty sure that was Gryphon's vote, since it is one of the choices, and Gryphon has a habit of rather short posts. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 15:06:21
quote:
Originally posted by GRYPHON
Idiot...
Me or Karsus?? |
| GRYPHON |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 14:56:16
Idiot... |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 14:50:33
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
quote:
Originally posted by Synthalus
Alisttair If he ever comes back to the realms i'm sure he will chose you to be his Avatar and i really mean that bro!
Avatar? I thought you're the High Priest?
Exarch. Dvine Servant. Demi-God. High Priest. I am all these things to the mighty Karsus! |
| Dennis |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 14:42:56
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
quote:
Originally posted by Synthalus
Alisttair If he ever comes back to the realms i'm sure he will chose you to be his Avatar and i really mean that bro!
Avatar? I thought you're the High Priest? |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 14:40:58
quote:
Originally posted by Synthalus
Alisttair If he ever comes back to the realms i'm sure he will chose you to be his Avatar and i really mean that bro!
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| Synthalus |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 13:48:11
Alisttair If he ever comes back to the realms i'm sure he will chose you to be his Avatar and i really mean that bro!
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| Dennis |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 13:39:26
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
Genius I say!! It may have seemed like folly upon the downfall of Netheril, but that was in fact his plan all along. The true genius of his feat will be revealed upon his divine resurrection. Only his true faithful will be rewarded.
Why am I not surprised?! |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 13:17:26
Genius I say!! It may have seemed like folly upon the downfall of Netheril, but that was in fact his plan all along. The true genius of his feat will be revealed upon his divine resurrection. Only his true faithful will be rewarded. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 13:13:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I don't think any of these poll options appropriately categorise just what Karsus accomplished.
Granted, we joke and we jive about his "Great Folly," but we also can't dismiss the purely innovative and exceptional genius that would've been required to both research and eventually enact such a plan.
Indeed. I raised it before, not just a few times. People tend to focus only on his folly, and forget that behind such deed is a great mind that threatened the very existence of a powerful deity, fashioned spells many wizards could only dream of making, and twisted the very nature of magic to create the bizarre but unique establishments in his enclave. |
| Synthalus |
Posted - 03 Feb 2011 : 13:05:40
Good point sage! Really i just posted this poll to get everyones basic opinion on the man in general and to urk alistair. He's got some serious hero worship of karsus going on! LOL |
