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Fellfire Posted - 22 Nov 2010 : 08:27:20
Greetings again fellow scribes, I am currently on the move and without a great deal of my resource so I turn once again to your collective knowledge. I am looking for a fey race that would make a suitable cohort for a gold-elven bladesinger (ranger/mage) and agent of the Eldreth Veluuthra. I have considered the quickling, but thought all of you may have some good suggestions. On a couple of related notes does anyone know of a site where the old monsters are compiled and broken down by type (say, for example, fey or desert encounter)? I have checked the wiki's and found them woefully incomplete. Also, there was a fey race somewhere in a 2e product, I don't remember their name, but they were tauric (centaur-like) creatures, very small with antlers on their heads. A cross between a pixie and a small antelope. I want to say it started with an H. Anyway, thank you all in advance. I love this place.

P.S. Please list any sources. Thanks again. Sweet Water and Light Laughter
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Alystra Illianniis Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 00:09:20
I don't recall them being considered fey, but you might add Darklings to the list. They seem very "Unseely" to me....
Quale Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 18:32:17
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

Not necessarily evil, but how about Underdark fey? I know of the Glouras but that is all I can think of off the top o' me head. Anybody know others and where I can find them? I know 4e has a whole portion of the Underdark in Faerie, the Feydark. Have they populated it from the 4e MMs? I have the 4e Underdark book, so I know bout the Fomorians and such, but are there any, i don't know, more "sprite-like" critters running around down there?



I can't think of any sprite-like creatures, the closest are fainil (flying drow, Dragon 244), maybe the tabi from Mystara but they aren't fey imo.

Of the other types the list is long, shadar-kai, pech, oread, boggle, will o'deep, vril, deep fey, scath, gruwaar, noran ...
Alystra Illianniis Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 09:49:10
You could always create "knockers" or bwcas. Hobs (not hobgoblins, these are different) might also take up residence in caves.
Fellfire Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 07:07:21
Not necessarily evil, but how about Underdark fey? I know of the Glouras but that is all I can think of off the top o' me head. Anybody know others and where I can find them? I know 4e has a whole portion of the Underdark in Faerie, the Feydark. Have they populated it from the 4e MMs? I have the 4e Underdark book, so I know bout the Fomorians and such, but are there any, i don't know, more "sprite-like" critters running around down there?
Bladewind Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 20:22:21
I cant recall their names but there are some sort of fiendish centaurs, that are fused with their armors and are the shock troops of devils... Myrmidons I think they were called.

Bauriars also have rams horns; make them fiendish with a templater and voila...
Wooly Rupert Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 13:07:50
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

Anybody remember an article from Dragon about Equines of the Lower Planes? I need Nightmares with antlers.

Or keeping with the fey theme, maybe Fiendish or Unseelie Unicorns



Thay has black unicorns... I think they were in the Spellbound boxed set.
Fellfire Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 06:00:50
Anybody remember an article from Dragon about Equines of the Lower Planes? I need Nightmares with antlers.

Or keeping with the fey theme, maybe Fiendish or Unseelie Unicorns
Wooly Rupert Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 04:59:52
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

This is SO weird - I actually was going to do a mini-pdf about an old NPC I created (for another system) as a Christmas-present for everyone.

His name is Zantarr Klouse, but the children of Waterdeep call him 'The Toyman'.




You could start with the links in my Ghosts of Christmas Past: Santa in 3.x thread.
Markustay Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 03:58:11
This is SO weird - I actually was going to do a mini-pdf about an old NPC I created (for another system) as a Christmas-present for everyone.

His name is Zantarr Klouse, but the children of Waterdeep call him 'The Toyman'.
Alystra Illianniis Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 03:34:35
Evil Santa?! LOL!!! Ooh, can I nominate my step-father for the role? He's like Santa, but niether jolly nor nice. More like Santa spliced with Grumpy and a little bit of "Earl" (from the TV show...)
Fellfire Posted - 18 Dec 2010 : 03:21:51
Well, it's nearly the dreaded day. I was asked about an Evil Santa at Wotc. Whadaya think? I'm sure some of you have given it some thought. Joystealers for Santa's helpers? How about the fat man himself (that dratted Redcap again) or his reindeer?
Fellfire Posted - 29 Nov 2010 : 13:32:00
I mentioned this in the Fey Realms thread, but figured I'd bring it up here too. (Sorry if I'm being redundant, Mod) In my quest for enlightenment I came across an old post at Enworld that mentioned a custom PrC, the Bluecap (formerly Redcap) created for gnome characters. It was OLD and the link is dead. I'd love to see this. Does anybody have this stashed away in their archives somewhere? (I read here that nothing on the 'net is ever gone) Is a Redcap Prestige Class the way to go instead of the Template I'm working on? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. I'm at something of an impasse.
Markustay Posted - 28 Nov 2010 : 00:05:34
Issue #54 of Dungeon Magazine has an adventure entitled 'Redcap's Rampage'. I have no idea how good it is or even what the plot might be, other then what the title suggests (which may help you if you can get your hands on it).
The Sage Posted - 27 Nov 2010 : 23:36:05
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's also the Unseelie Fey template in the Realms Bestiary, Volume 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa.



Nice. Never seen those. Thanks Wooly.



Those are a couple of wonderful resources I like to mention periodically. They're not official canon, though bits of them have made it into official products. Still, they're close enough to canon for my mind.

Indeed. They've even further usefulness now, since the introduction to 4e. With the two volumes of the Bestiary firmly embedded in the 3e framework [though, I suppose with some work, the contents could be updated to 4e], this is information that likely won't ever be fully confirmed or denied in a future product.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 27 Nov 2010 : 16:05:05
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's also the Unseelie Fey template in the Realms Bestiary, Volume 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa.



Nice. Never seen those. Thanks Wooly.



Those are a couple of wonderful resources I like to mention periodically. They're not official canon, though bits of them have made it into official products. Still, they're close enough to canon for my mind.
Fellfire Posted - 27 Nov 2010 : 07:16:29
I didn't see the need for a new thread, since this is just a continuation of the original idea, but, it's a little different. I am having trouble with the Redcap-Template I'm working on. Suggestions anyone? I'm considering making the cap similar to a Neirid's soul-shawl. I really am unsure as to which direction to take. Perhaps I'm over-thinking it, I've been known to do that.

Also, in my travels, i found this...

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lists/monsters&tablesort=4

it is a list of monsters from all 3.5 published sources sortable by type (ex. fey, undead etc.) i found it helpful

and this...

http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/index.php

which sorts monsters by enviroment among numerous other useful lists
Brimstone Posted - 27 Nov 2010 : 02:38:44
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's also the Unseelie Fey template in the Realms Bestiary, Volume 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa.



Nice. Never seen those. Thanks Wooly.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 26 Nov 2010 : 23:45:37
There's also the Unseelie Fey template in the Realms Bestiary, Volume 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa.
The Sage Posted - 26 Nov 2010 : 23:24:27
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

There was an underdark "fairy" that I remember from dragon, and I think it was redone in the third edition underdark book for the realms. I think it was called the Gloura?? Anyway, I remember it in my head and thinking it made a very good unseelie type "queen" for small groups of fairies.

'Gloura' is correct -- pg. 88 of 3e's Underdark. And given that they're described as "rare and delicate," your model would probably work too. Though, they are of NG alignment.
sleyvas Posted - 26 Nov 2010 : 18:46:30
There was an underdark "fairy" that I remember from dragon, and I think it was redone in the third edition underdark book for the realms. I think it was called the Gloura?? Anyway, I remember it in my head and thinking it made a very good unseelie type "queen" for small groups of fairies.
Brimstone Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 03:22:40
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Well, if Brownies can become Bogarts, I don't see why not. Sounds cool.
I had a brownie do that once.

I told her to just pass the damn thing already.

(Lets see how many people get that)


Markustay Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 00:02:14
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Well, if Brownies can become Bogarts, I don't see why not. Sounds cool.
I had a brownie do that once.

I told her to just pass the damn thing already.

(Lets see how many people get that)
Brimstone Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 23:44:13
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

You are probably thinking of the Hybsil, which appeared in 3e's Monsters of Faerūn.


Thats the creature I was thinking about. As usual I butchered the name...




Markustay Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 23:39:43
All Fey need 'life' (re: Radiant Energy in D&D), and the energies of life are often represented by The Blood (in both Pagan and Christian religions). Note that vampires drink blood to sustain their 'life' (or state of 'unlife', if you prefer). Early D&D vampires were of the 'psychic' type, and drained 'life energies' directly, whereas classical Vampires drink blood to acquire their sustenance. Both are really one and the same - vampires without psychic abilities - be they either too 'young' or just too stupid (or hungry) to bother - stoop to drinking blood to get at the precious 'life energies' (which are stored in The Blood).

Elves are Fey-descendants, and it is canonical that they do receive at least a small portion of their sustenance from sunlight (which I theorize is actually the radiant energy they are absorbing).

Ergo, all fey-blooded creatures need this Radiant/life energy to survive, and the Quicklings 'burn through it' much more rapidly then they can replenish it. They are literally 'starving' for it after using their amazing bursts of speed. Most would have a Feyglade the can replenish their power from, but one that is denied the use of such a place of power - like an Unseelie Fey - may have to stoop to drastic measures to obtain what it needs - human blood and the life-energies it contains.

Spirits, on the other hand, are astral beings and composed of only Radiant energy, which is why so many of the incorporeal undead have life-draining powers. As they use energy they 'dwindle', and cannot replenish their energy as living beings can. Physical undead are usually the reanimated corpse of a person infused with negative energy (which provides the motive force - the 'Animus').

In order to carry these thoughts further I would have to dip perilously close to RW metaphysics, so I won't.

Lets just say that I LOVE the idea of Feral Fey who take their energy any way they can get it.
Alystra Illianniis Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 22:26:18
Well, if Brownies can become Bogarts, I don't see why not. Sounds cool.
Calmar Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 21:59:54
That sounds indeed really cool. :)
Markustay Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 20:52:35
A Quickling-turned-Redcap...

Brilliant.
Fellfire Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 20:18:21
Yes, the idea is crystalizing nicely. In the "Quickling" entry in the MC Annual it states that "no quickling has ever lived beyond 15 without the aid of powerful magic" Well, this particular quickling did not want to die young, so began to dabble in dark magics. In the "Redcap" entry from the MM2 it says that they are "psychotic killers..who live on other peoples pain" and "by dipping their caps in their victims blood, ...they absorb some of the essence of every creature they kill," and "thanks to this ability..they can amass tremendous strength an near invulnerability" So, this Quickling has become something of a vampire, "feeding" off of the pain and spiritual essence of his victims through some dark ritual involving his cap in order to stay alive. What do you all think?
Markustay Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 18:50:55
Remind me of Pysk from the Mithgar novels (which I've used in both my GH and FR games).

Which just gave me an idea for a Fey ability!

Most of this should go in the other thread....
Ayrik Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 07:33:25
The two brownies(?) in the movie Willow are entertaining as well. Though unsuited to bladesinging, I'd think.

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