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Lodis Knight Posted - 27 Dec 2007 : 11:12:26
Anyone have info on this new adventure?

Here.



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Alisttair Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 19:04:00
My aching brain
Mr_Miscellany Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:56:11
My bad. The acronym means I Don't Have The Adventure In Front Of Me. It's a play on IDHTBIFOM (B is for book), which was an acronym I first saw about 10 years ago and was used by people who answered (e-)mailing list questions from work or while away from their book collection.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:54:52
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

I'm still don't confused, I think. I don't have the atlas in front of me, maybe?





Either that or I Don't Have The Adventure In Front Of Me. I think it's the latter.
Christopher_Rowe Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:22:51
I'm still don't confused, I think. I don't have the atlas in front of me, maybe?

Wooly Rupert Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:19:56
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Miscellany

IDHTAIFOM, but I'm pretty sure Saharelguard was always a fixed location.



Okay, that acronym really threw me for several seconds!
Mr_Miscellany Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 16:30:42
IDHTAIFOM, but I'm pretty sure Saharelguard was always a fixed location.
Alisttair Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 15:25:44
Does anyone know the answer to this...was Spellgard (then known as Saharelgard) a floating enclave that plummeted at the fall of Netheril, or was it always located where it currently is?
Alisttair Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 11:36:03
quote:
Originally posted by Ruul

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.



Haha!



Bah, more Harry Potsmoker...
Ruul Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 16:21:05
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.



Haha!
Diffan Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 16:18:58
Ahhh, that's it! I knew it was close to Spellgard. Thanks Sage.
Alisttair Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 11:58:49
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Allistair is correct. 'Tis Spellhold.



Thanks Sage. I actually thought about it again last night, but decided against turning on my computer and playing the game until the information was revealed
The Sage Posted - 24 Nov 2010 : 00:01:37
Allistair is correct. 'Tis Spellhold.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 20:53:45
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.
Alisttair Posted - 23 Nov 2010 : 18:19:14
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Spellhold??? (I think...)
Diffan Posted - 22 Nov 2010 : 15:33:50
And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?
Alisttair Posted - 16 Nov 2010 : 11:59:05
I looked at it last night. Do you mean the path heading east on the overland map? If so, I believe you mean the road going off into the "former desert", which is now the lush grassland (ok, maybe not lush, but no longer a desert) of Netheril. I imagine it was drawn so as to point DMs into having the adventure move onward into Netheril perhaps (or as a suggestion as such)...I plan on using Netheril, but I don't see my group heading in that direction with the nefarious scheme I have in mind.
Alisttair Posted - 15 Nov 2010 : 12:21:14
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Back On-Topic:

The map that accompanied this product showed a road going off into the desert.

Anyone know anything about this? It isn't on the Loudwater map in the FRCS. Was there a purpose for this? I am not that familiar with the adventure itself, but I do not see it mentioned anywhere, so I have to wonder as to why it was drawn that way.

Anyone familiar with 4eFR please chime-in - do the Shades trade with others, like a normal state would?



I'm currently running this adventure but don't have it with me here. On which map are you referring. not the one of Spellgard itself right, but one of the ones with the surrounding area?
Diffan Posted - 14 Nov 2010 : 04:06:31
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Back On-Topic:

Anyone familiar with 4eFR please chime-in - do the Shades trade with others, like a normal state would?



Hmmm...that's a pretty good question. One part of me wants to say yes. As a growing nation, they need resources that aren't readily available within their still fertal-growing lands. But on the other, I don't see their neighbors being very kind and trading with them too. I think, for the most part they do most of their trading through Sembia and possibly a little here and there on their Western borders (save for Evereska and Elturgard).
Markustay Posted - 13 Nov 2010 : 20:31:53
Back On-Topic:

The map that accompanied this product showed a road going off into the desert.

Anyone know anything about this? It isn't on the Loudwater map in the FRCS. Was there a purpose for this? I am not that familiar with the adventure itself, but I do not see it mentioned anywhere, so I have to wonder as to why it was drawn that way.

Anyone familiar with 4eFR please chime-in - do the Shades trade with others, like a normal state would?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 17:16:23
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I don't think the presence of a leading article is really enough to differentiate between the two Shining Souths, though. It's all too easy for someone to recall that a bit of lore is in one of those two books, but not the other -- and whether or not there's a "The" on the cover won't help them narrow it down without asking someone else.

Eh. I never encountered that type of situation. Each and every time I've directed a scribe to either tome in conversation, they've welcomed the differentiation.




No, I mean someone researching on their own, without asking someone else. If I recall reading about Ramael the Reader, for example, and I recall that he was described in the section on Halruaa in one of the two books, having both books bear the same name makes it harder to figure out which book it was. If, on the other hand, I recalled that he was in the one called (hypothetically) Lands of the Shining South, then that would have been easier to locate. Same thing if I remembered a particular locale being described in Lords of Darkness, but I can't remember if it was the 1E one or the 3E one.

A lot of things, I remember not so much what source they're in, as much as I remember what other stuff was also in that source. So I don't remember as readily that factoid X was in book A, as much as I recall that factoid X was in the same book as factoids Y and Z -- and since all three factoids pertain to the same aspect of Realmslore, I recall the book that covered it. I personally haven't had issues with remembering whether something was in REF5 Lords of Darkness or Lords of Darkness, or in either FR16 The Shining South* or Shining South -- but I can see how that would trip up others.

*Oddly, for a lot of the 1E and 2E stuff, I recall the FR or FOR product code almost as readily as the actual title.
The Sage Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 16:25:59
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I don't think the presence of a leading article is really enough to differentiate between the two Shining Souths, though. It's all too easy for someone to recall that a bit of lore is in one of those two books, but not the other -- and whether or not there's a "The" on the cover won't help them narrow it down without asking someone else.

Eh. I never encountered that type of situation. Each and every time I've directed a scribe to either tome in conversation, they've welcomed the differentiation.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 15:10:38
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

But we've got two each of Shining South and Lords of Madness, for example, within the same setting.
That's not technically accurate. FR16 was The Shining South, while the 3e version was just Shining South. And I think you meant the two Lords of Darkness tomes [which we've had two of], rather than Lords of Madness.



Yeah, Lords of Darkness. Was late.

I don't think the presence of a leading article is really enough to differentiate between the two Shining Souths, though. It's all too easy for someone to recall that a bit of lore is in one of those two books, but not the other -- and whether or not there's a "The" on the cover won't help them narrow it down without asking someone else.
The Sage Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 06:23:38
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

But we've got two each of Shining South and Lords of Madness, for example, within the same setting.
That's not technically accurate. FR16 was The Shining South, while the 3e version was just Shining South. And I think you meant the two Lords of Darkness tomes [which we've had two of], rather than Lords of Madness.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 04:22:52
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

Also: Did anyone re-read this scroll??! The nerd-rage from the earlier posts are just plain ol' hilarious. Seriously, it had me chuckling the whole way through.



I think that regardless of editions and opinions on them, it's still ridiculous to reuse product codes and titles -- particularly titles. It's even worse when they're reused within one setting. Sure, we've got four Draconomicons, but only one was FR-specific. But we've got two each of Shining South and Lords of Madness, for example, within the same setting.

Maybe it's just me, but that seems lazy and uncreative at best.
Diffan Posted - 16 Oct 2010 : 03:42:40
I know it doesn't look as cool, but I use Plexi-glass over the old 3.5 black/white battle grid (which I also laminated) and use dry-erase markers to draw everything. Much easier when you can just look at the map, draw it out and add in whatever things you want too. Plus, I've found that the dungeon tiles shift alot during combat and that's annoying as hell!!

Any tips to keeping the tiles together besides putting Plexi-glass on those as well?

Also, I saw I can buy the adventure on Amazon.com for like $5 bucks, so I was wondering if it's worth it? I mean, 5 bucks is nothing so I'll probably get it regardless, but I wanted some opinions!!



Also: Did anyone re-read this scroll??! The nerd-rage from the earlier posts are just plain ol' hilarious. Seriously, it had me chuckling the whole way through.
Alisttair Posted - 14 Oct 2010 : 11:46:45
Ok I stopped wasting my time and just re-worked everything to fit with what I have in a way that makes more sense than the clustercluck that they made in this module. Don't get me wrong, it's a great adventure which can be easily adapted for the campaign's needs, but it was minimally checked for mistakes....
Garen Thal Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 19:45:47
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Ok I've been looking for the Map Resource that is supposedly on the wizards site for Scepter Tower of Spellgard and I can't find it for the life of me!!!!!!!
Deep breaths, friend.

Although the original map resource is no longer available, they did release all of the maps from the adventure as a D&DI map gallery. They can be found here.
Matt James Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 19:27:36
Why not just make the tower impromptu with what you have?
Alisttair Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 17:15:30
Ok I've been looking for the Map Resource that is supposedly on the wizards site for Scepter Tower of Spellgard and I can't find it for the life of me!!!!!!!
I found some links from their forums and such but it leads to NOTHING!!!!!!! wtf is wrong with Wizards making false statements and/or breaking up links to things....I am so angry right now this is stressing me out!!! I can't use a regular computer to search it because any site with the Game keyword is blocked so I am stuck using my iPhone and that is TEDIOUS to search for information that is seemingly non-existent - HOW ARE YOU SUPOPOSED TO USE DUNGEON TILES TO MAKE THOSE ROOMS IN THE SCEPTER TOWER AS PER WHAT THEY SAY IN THE MODULE IT MAKES NO SENSE t%$@#^@#^%##^%@^%@$%$!@#%$



Gahhhhh!!!!!

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Alisttair Posted - 12 Oct 2010 : 13:43:03
I must resurrect this thread. I am currently running this adventure for my players and have run into a conundrum. The tower itself has one map for it and the rooms within are all shaped differently for every floor. Book 1 says to use dungeon tiles to make the rooms, and while I have all the pieces for each room it says for me to use, i can't make it fit the way it says....it just makes no sense to me. It does say you can see how to place them at dndinsider.com looking for the Scepter Tower of Spellgard Special Feature (which I remember a few years ago seeing the illustrations with how to place the tiles) but now that I actually NEED it, I can't for the life of me find these illustrations on the wizards site. If someone has them or at least a link (I do have an insider account) to where I can find them, I would very much need it (before this saturday's gaming session lol if possible)....odds are its been right under my nose, but help!!!!!!!!

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