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Forgotten Ghost Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 05:18:47
Hi I'm new to Candlekeep and have a few realms related questions:
1)In the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting under fighters it mentions Gondgal the lost king, he also gets mentioned in a few computer games set in the realms. I know he tried to establish his own kingdom and was put down by King Azoun the IV but know nothing else about him. What novel(s) does he appear in and is he still alive?
2)How on earth does one pronounce Ffolk?
3)What are the levels of the High Captains of Luskan? I have the Lords of Darkness book but it mentions their names only.
4)I recently read the 'Best swordsman' topic as I have a preference for non spellcaster heros in the novels i read and in the characters i play and Ed's reply named alot of characters i am not familiar with like:
Harmel Artu
Maethrammer Aerasume
Loaros Hammarander
Skoalam Marlgrask
Sraece Telthorn
and others and was wondering which novels do they appear in and just interested in knowing a bit more about them.

Now I have read quite a few of the Forgotten realms novels (most of EC's and RAS's stuff plus the fighters series, the return of the Archwizards, Moonshae trilogy, house of serpents series, last mythal and others) and have played in or run realms based campaigns for about the last 5 years so I'm not a novice but these things have really bugged me for awhile and when I found out about Candlekeep I thought I'd turn to the sages here. Any assistance is really appreciated.
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The Sage Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:48:35
quote:
Originally posted by Thauramarth

quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis

Just to complete the information about Gondegal.

You can find his 2ed stats in the boxed set Realm of Terror for Ravenloft. There is a nice picture of him also on page 98 of the book. He's described as a 20th level Warrior, CN. He's been wandering the Demi plane of Falkovnia seeking adventure. At least that's the Ravenloft versino.



And to complete even more: In 2nd edition, Gondegal has a write-up in later life in Champions of the Mist, pp. 47-49.

Which has actually been updated in the 3e RL material from the source I mentioned in the quote a fellow scribe posted previously. Though the Realms-specific references from that update have been removed.
GothicDan Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 05:56:46
By the RAW, Shades cannot become Liches.

However, if you do allow it (which I probably would), then I would say that they retain all of their abilities, since other creatures that become liches retain them as well.

Not sure as to the age thing, as I don't have RoF handy. Sorry.
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 05:31:55
I know i ask alot of questions but...one more thing.
What is the life span of a shade? (I mean the shadovar city of shade variety)
and if a Shade wanted to become a Lich would they lose all their Shade
abilities?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 03:14:21
quote:
Originally posted by Thauramarth

quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

3)What are the levels of the High Captains of Luskan? I have the Lords of Darkness book but it mentions their names only.



The High Captains' levels (in 2nd Edition) are listed in a footnote on p. 111 of Volo's Guide to the North, available as a freebie on the WotC website.



And I am of course obligated to provide that link: the Wizards downloads page.
Thauramarth Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 20:02:05
quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

3)What are the levels of the High Captains of Luskan? I have the Lords of Darkness book but it mentions their names only.



The High Captains' levels (in 2nd Edition) are listed in a footnote on p. 111 of Volo's Guide to the North, available as a freebie on the WotC website.
Thauramarth Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 19:58:02
quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis

Just to complete the information about Gondegal.

You can find his 2ed stats in the boxed set Realm of Terror for Ravenloft. There is a nice picture of him also on page 98 of the book. He's described as a 20th level Warrior, CN. He's been wandering the Demi plane of Falkovnia seeking adventure. At least that's the Ravenloft versino.



And to complete even more: In 2nd edition, Gondegal has a write-up in later life in Champions of the Mist, pp. 47-49.
Kuje Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 08:25:21
quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

Thanks for the link Ergdusch i spent ages looking for it on the wizards site with no luck.
And to you Rinonalyrna Fathomlin yeah I agree when I was talking to some friends about the Moonshae trilogy and kept saying Ffolk (I'd say f folk) it just made me sound like i had developed a stutter, hence why I wanted to know how to pronounce it properly.
To everyone Thanks heaps for the assist oh and I think its spelt Anchorome Kuje if I'm thinking of the same place as you.
Cheers!



Yeah, that's it. :) I just didn't feel like looking it up.
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 07:24:21
Thanks for the link Ergdusch i spent ages looking for it on the wizards site with no luck.
And to you Rinonalyrna Fathomlin yeah I agree when I was talking to some friends about the Moonshae trilogy and kept saying Ffolk (I'd say f folk) it just made me sound like i had developed a stutter, hence why I wanted to know how to pronounce it properly.
To everyone Thanks heaps for the assist oh and I think its spelt Anchorome Kuje if I'm thinking of the same place as you.
Cheers!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 04:04:40
Heh, true enough. But thank you nonetheless for telling us how to pronounce that word.
The Hooded One Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 03:18:27
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin, I agree, and I suspect Ed does, too, but Doug Niles put it into the Realms, and we're all stuck with it.

love,
THO
Ergdusch Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 02:01:16
Methrammar Aerasumé
his stats, as correctly pointed out by Rinonalyrna, are to be found here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rp/20021009a
Ergdusch Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 01:58:47
If you have not found Gondegal in a 3rd Ed. Source book - bhere is the info: p. 144 of Ravenlof Gazetteer Vol 2.

He is known as Gondegal the Lost King, the Knight of Falkovnia.
His stats are Fighter10/Knight of Shadow* 6.

*(PrC from Ravenloft)

Hope that helps.
Patrakis Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 23:29:44
Just to complete the information about Gondegal.

You can find his 2ed stats in the boxed set Realm of Terror for Ravenloft. There is a nice picture of him also on page 98 of the book. He's described as a 20th level Warrior, CN. He's been wandering the Demi plane of Falkovnia seeking adventure. At least that's the Ravenloft versino.

Pat
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 22:44:12
Glad to be of assistance.

By the way, I always thought "Ffolk" was a dumb word.
Asgetrion Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 22:31:36
quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

So Gondegal never actually appeared in and Novels or been Stated out? Also what did he look like and what was his weapon/fighting style? I anyone has any idea.



He is statted in one of the Ravenloft tomes (or boxed sets) as a Knight of Shadows, or something like that...
Kuje Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 16:56:38
quote:
Originally posted by Swordsage

Gondegal's disappearance to Ravenloft is noted in passing in the FR13 Anauroch accessory.

The artifacts you seek are not statted out in magic of Faerun. They were given 2E stats in Volo's Guide to All Things magical.

The Swordsage




And the Spellbound box set where they play a part in one of the modules.

Balduran sailed to the lands of Maztica, Anchorane? SP? I butchered that spelling, and never returned as far as we know.
The Hooded One Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 15:48:53
And according to Ed, Ffolk is pronounced (I'm exaggerating here):
"FfffOAK."
(In other words, slightly lengthen a single "F" sound, and then come down emphatically on the "olk" - - which should end up sounding like "oak" or "oke").
Ed wrote up a mini-bio of Gondegal years back, as part of a "list of recently vanished Realms NPCs who could be whisked off to Ravenloft," but I believe it's still NDA. Gondegal is mentioned in many, many places in Realmslore, including CORMYR: A NOVEL by Ed and Jeff Grubb.
love,
THO
Swordsage Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 13:34:33
Gondegal's disappearance to Ravenloft is noted in passing in the FR13 Anauroch accessory.

The artifacts you seek are not statted out in magic of Faerun. They were given 2E stats in Volo's Guide to All Things magical.

The Swordsage
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 11:00:31
Well the sages here have certainly lived up to their reputation. All assistance rendered is appreciated.
Alaundo Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 09:26:28
quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

Jeeze you guys are FAST! I barely remembered Maethrammer Aerasume, also thanks for the info on Gondegal all. Just another quick question are the artifacts Thakorsil's Seat and the Deathmoon orb stated out in the Magic of Faerun book because if they are I was going to buy it.



Well met

Aye, my fellow scribes delight in providing Realmslore to all Welcome to Candlekeep, Forgotten Ghost. I hope ye enjoy thy stay.
Jorkens Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 09:23:52
quote:

Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

Also does anyone know how to pronounce Ffolk? (I'm a perfectionist when it comes to this kind of thing). Oh yeah and anyone know anything about Balduran the founder of Baldur's Gate?


I think one of the F's will have to be silent and the pronunciation is just as Folk; If you want you could maybe sharpen the F sound a little bit to differentiate the two terms.

When it comes to Balduran I think the best sources are the old Forgotten Realms Adventures, and maybe Volos Guide to the Sword coast. The last one is a free download from Wizards page I think.
From what I remember Balduran was a sea captain and explorer of the western sea that long ago had the walls of the city built with his riches, to protect the harbor from marauders. He later sailed out on another journey and never returned.

Hope this helps.
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 08:32:11
Also does anyone know how to pronounce Ffolk? (I'm a perfectionist when it comes to this kind of thing). Oh yeah and anyone know anything about Balduran the founder of Baldur's Gate?
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 08:20:57
Jeeze you guys are FAST! I barely remembered Maethrammer Aerasume, also thanks for the info on Gondegal all. Just another quick question are the artifacts Thakorsil's Seat and the Deathmoon orb stated out in the Magic of Faerun book because if they are I was going to buy it.
Kuje Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 07:56:11
Ah,

See I don't own the original box set and I didn't check the 3e ones. :)

BTW, Ed discussed that npc last year on April 19th. :)
Jorkens Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 07:28:13
Ha, I found it. I have never looked at a 3ed ravenloft product, so I can not say anything about Gondegals stats, Forgotten Ghost, but I think it is your best official source.

quote:

Originaly posted by the Sage 10 jul 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

To the best of my knowledge, Gondegal has never really been featured in a Ravenloft novel. The original boxed set placed him there; I believe he's the leader of a mercenary army.
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Gondegal was mentioned, by name only, in one of the novels featuring Tristen Hiregaard.

He's also detailed and stat'd in one of the 3e Gazetteers.
Kuje Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 07:10:13
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

And Kuje; I have heard the Ravenloft link before, but I just summed it up as one more rumour. I assume that it was a Ravenloft product that had this information, I just wondered, was this set in stone or was it more of a rumour? Just curious as there were some many loose Gondegal threads being presented throughout 2ed.



Not sure, it might be in one of the Ravenloft products that I don't own, which is why I went with the I heard comment. :)
Jorkens Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 06:20:26
I seem to remember that Gondegal was a level20 CN fighter fighting with bastard or two-handed sword.

And Kuje; I have heard the Ravenloft link before, but I just summed it up as one more rumour. I assume that it was a Ravenloft product that had this information, I just wondered, was this set in stone or was it more of a rumour? Just curious as there were some many loose Gondegal threads being presented throughout 2ed.
Kuje Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 06:14:14
I've heard, at least during 1e/2e, that Gondgal was snattched by the Mists of Ravenloft and so he still did/does reside in Ravenloft. :)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 06:11:46
quote:
Originally posted by Forgotten Ghost

Was he the Half Elf guy leading the Silverymoon forces in Forsaken house, who met up with the retreating Elves of the High Forest?



Yup. And I could barely stand him in that novel.
Forgotten Ghost Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 06:08:32
Was he the Half Elf guy leading the Silverymoon forces in Forsaken house, who met up with the retreating Elves of the High Forest? I thought the name sounded familiar...

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