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Mekorig Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 03:00:52
Whit soo many ruins and fallen empires and cultures, have appeared in any published source an organization especialied in recovering the ancient knowledge for the only sake of recovering it instead of using it for power/money? Just for the knowlegde, like the monks in CAndlekeep?
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Kes_Alanadel Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 16:59:15
Thanks Sage [:). Thought I had it right, but couldn't just get up and open the book like I normally do before posting .
The Sage Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 15:04:51
Loredelver is correct .

They're essentially Illumian spellcasters... though aside from the class requirement for a Loredelver to be an Illumian, there really isn't a whole lot preventing this class being available to other races if that requirement is changed, or ignored completely.
Kes_Alanadel Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 13:18:30
Another PrC that could fit with a few modifications is the Loredelver from Races of Destiny (I may have the name incorrect. I'm 3000 miles from my books at the moment ). It is race specific for the Illuminati, but that can be chucked pretty easily, IIRC.
~Kes
The Sage Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:46:46
There's also a few tidbits on archaeological activities around some of the sites listed in the sections for the North and Netheril in LEoF.
The Sage Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:46:22
quote:
Originally posted by D-brane

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

As it is... I'm working on an FR archaeology guild for the Candlekeep Compendium -- the "Forgotten Scroll". The first part was detailed in the CC Vol. 1. Installments are to follow.


When are the installments to follow?

There's not really much to work with yet, based on what you've written about this "Forgotten Scroll" organisation so far.

When can we expect updates?


I'm getting to them.

With some of my recent free-time being taken up by my just-concluded holiday, and numerous other projects I've got set aside for Candlekeep... it's going to take time.
Aaron L Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 08:26:05
What do you think all the adventurers exploring ancient ruins are?

Just kidding... or am I?
Kuje Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 18:04:23
quote:
Originally posted by Gray Richardson

Lords of Darkness has a lot about the Shades and their archaeological efforts to uncover lost artifacts and lore of old Netheril. I believe there is an archaeological dig-site detailed as an adventure location in the book.



There is. :)
Gray Richardson Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 09:29:22
Lords of Darkness has a lot about the Shades and their archaeological efforts to uncover lost artifacts and lore of old Netheril. I believe there is an archaeological dig-site detailed as an adventure location in the book.
Kalin Agrivar Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 17:55:32
In the introduction of the original (FOR) Draconomicon there is a number of scholars debating the orgins of the dragons, there may be stuff there that would help...

I also have seen a few prestige classes that may be of help, but from other d20 sourses

Kalin
D-brane Posted - 25 Jun 2006 : 13:58:43
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

As it is... I'm working on an FR archaeology guild for the Candlekeep Compendium -- the "Forgotten Scroll". The first part was detailed in the CC Vol. 1. Installments are to follow.


When are the installments to follow?

There's not really much to work with yet, based on what you've written about this "Forgotten Scroll" organisation so far.

When can we expect updates?
Ergdusch Posted - 25 Jun 2006 : 11:48:00
I stumbled across another PrC that might be intersting regarding to archeology. In "Song and Silence" we have the Class "Temple Raider of Olidammara" (p.16) You might want to check that one out as well.

Ergdusch
Ergdusch Posted - 25 Jun 2006 : 11:40:39
The simple answer would be: They had to be evil to be included in a source book like CoR.

But otherwise, I could not see a good reason either. Just because they are suppose to be opportunistic treasure hunters? That can't be it......
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 22:33:18
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Shade Hunters in Champions of Ruin would make really good "Indiana Jones" style archeologists, if you didn't have to be evil. Perhaps if you played one, you could dig up the answer for why "any evil" is a requirement . . .


I'd simply chuck the evil requirement out the window. While I liked a lot of the PrCs in that one, I also felt that many of them were too tightly focused, and that the alignment/organization restrictions didn't make any sense.



I agree. I never got why the Shade Hunter had to be evil, myself.
Mekorig Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 18:21:37
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Shade Hunters in Champions of Ruin would make really good "Indiana Jones" style archeologists, if you didn't have to be evil. Perhaps if you played one, you could dig up the answer for why "any evil" is a requirement . . .

Olin Gisir could make for interesting "archeologist" type characters, looking for ancient ruins to see if any ancient evil is contained within, and making sure they stay that way, but its a little different mindset and the PrC is for elves.

Trapmaster is a good FEAT for an archeologist type obviously, and the Cultists of the Shattered Peak make for a good "Last Crusade" type order trying to keep the archeologist type from finding what they are looking for.





i will check that PrC in CoR. The Olin Gisir is nice, but too elvish to me. I recall another feat from the Complete Adventurer IIRC. The Relic Hunter i think.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 05:28:08
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Shade Hunters in Champions of Ruin would make really good "Indiana Jones" style archeologists, if you didn't have to be evil. Perhaps if you played one, you could dig up the answer for why "any evil" is a requirement . . .


I'd simply chuck the evil requirement out the window. While I liked a lot of the PrCs in that one, I also felt that many of them were too tightly focused, and that the alignment/organization restrictions didn't make any sense.
KnightErrantJR Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 04:09:41
Shade Hunters in Champions of Ruin would make really good "Indiana Jones" style archeologists, if you didn't have to be evil. Perhaps if you played one, you could dig up the answer for why "any evil" is a requirement . . .

Olin Gisir could make for interesting "archeologist" type characters, looking for ancient ruins to see if any ancient evil is contained within, and making sure they stay that way, but its a little different mindset and the PrC is for elves.

Trapmaster is a good FEAT for an archeologist type obviously, and the Cultists of the Shattered Peak make for a good "Last Crusade" type order trying to keep the archeologist type from finding what they are looking for.

scererar Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 03:37:24
my first thought here was Artus Cimbar in the Ring of Winter novel and the society of stalwart adventures, in Cormyr.
The Sage Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 03:17:26
As it is... I'm working on an FR archaeology guild for the Candlekeep Compendium -- the "Forgotten Scroll". The first part was detailed in the CC Vol. 1. Installments are to follow.
Mekorig Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 03:17:04
I ask because i am studing archeology in university, and i would love to play one. I remember a non-oficial kit for Greyhawk 2ed. The dustdigger. But nothing for 3.x .
The Sage Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 03:14:59
Baylee, from Lost Library of Cormanthyr, was an *archaeologist* of sorts.

The "Lorefinder" in Demihumans of the Realms passes for an "archaeologist" basis in FR also.

I don't recall any specifics on an archaeologist guild/organisation as you describe... certainly archaeology guilds have been mentioned in sources -- but with very little true details revealed.

This might be a question for Ed.

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