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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 06 Dec 2017 :  20:56:20  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meiandringolousaert is taking shape now.

Decided on her history and her lair and adding some flavour to it as well as some motivations and quirks.

Need to work on her magic and deeds and her ultimate fate (which is to die)

https://alternaterealmsblog.wordpress.com/meiandringous/

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Starting on the big bit now, unthalass and gilgeam.

Ive decided on a few features. Im going to have two levels of under city corresponding to the two big floods which covered the city in silt each time and was never dug out.
Outcasts and criminals live in the undercity whereas the monsters live in the deep warrens.
Im going to have degenerate humans in the deep warrens that prey on the slums above.

Gilgeam has a torture chamber beneath his palace which is where ram-manu is kept apart from on the few times gilgeam lets him out as his favourite pet. Im thinking ram-manu is a ptsd sufferer from millennia of battles and he has retreated into himself and will do whatever gilgeam wants.

Ereshkigal i think will be one of those fey creatures that gilgeam brutalised early in the history of akanu. It followed him here to exact revenge. Or alternatively it is the ultimate fate of his favoured concubines. He has them cursed by magic so no one else can have them, not even death.

Unthalass exists at the river mouth of the alamber. So the name of the city should reflect that (like portsmouth in england).

Maybe unthalass can be built on a big turami graveyard

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Markustay
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Is Tefnut around? Was she ever around? (canonically, in FR)

Like not only what happened to her officially (if anything), but also whatever you're doing with her (because I found an old 2e adventure - Swamplight - that I plan to stick down in Chult and my new version of Samarach, and she's kinda central to the whole thing... sorta). As I said, OE is far from my area of expertise, and asking here will probably be MUCH quicker than me trying to do my own research (I'll wind up rereading 20 books and get no work done).

EDIT:
Just did a little reading (wikipedia and FRwiki), and Shu (Tefnut's husband) appears to have been canon. He was a 'god of the winds' in FR; I wonder if it was HIM posing as Teylas (supposedly Akadi) in the Hordelands... it is right next door. Unfortunately, that god still acted much more like Talos than anyone (unless Shu is part of talos, or Shu became Talos after absorbing Garagos (it seems like everyone was Talos... except Talos LOL)

Makes me wonder if 'Talos' is more like a title - maybe some dead god who several different deities imitate//pose as. That would help explain a lot, actually. A bunch of gods together and offed Garagos, and then they split up his power and they created this fake 'Talos' guy they all take turns posing as in different regions. Shu could be one of those. Gruumsh + Talos = Garagos, or rather, Garagos - Gruumsh = Talos. That might work as well.

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sleyvas
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From Powers and Pantheons

Geb, god of the earth, is one of the oldest deities of Mulhorand. Following their creation by Ra, Shu and Tefnut produced numerous offspring. The first of these was Geb, who became the earth. Geb was so enraptured with his sister, Nut (the sky), that they instantly embraced. After they had produced four children of their own (Isis, Set, Osiris, and Nephthys), Ra instructed Shu to break up the embrace of Geb and Nut. When the Mulhorandi pantheon left for Abeir-Toril, Ra commanded Geb to send a manifestation and for Nut to remain behind with Shu and Tefnut in order to further separate the prolific pair.

From this statement, I would say that Shu, Nut, and Tefnut are not in the realms.

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Markustay
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Posted - 10 Dec 2017 :  04:22:27  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Shu and Geb both 'busted a Nut'... and they were their sisters?

Egyptian culture must have been very... different.




Thanks for the response - the Idol came from 'elsewhere', since I've already made it so the city it was in - Chala - appeared during the Spellplague (but not from Abier - it could have been from Hepmonaland in GH, or Oltec/Azca in Mystara's Hollow World, or somewhere else entirely).

Tefnut isn't in the adventure per se, just a statue of her, whom they worship... but that doesn't really mean anything, especially since they came from another world altogether. Depending on how much detail I want to put into this little project, I may use Bast as a stand-in for this Tefnut (the statue/idol in question IS a cat-headed goddess, after all, and the two are connected to the same pantheon). Besides, putting Bast in a jungle setting lets her get in touch with her savage side (and I've already made the connection between Sharess and Tlazolteotl).

And since I plan to place Set/Zehir in the area as an underground cult with a growing following (they call him Sethir), that would eventually pit Bast against set... which is part of their RW dogma.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 10 Dec 2017 :  15:21:25  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

So Shu and Geb both 'busted a Nut'... and they were their sisters?

Egyptian culture must have been very... different.




Thanks for the response - the Idol came from 'elsewhere', since I've already made it so the city it was in - Chala - appeared during the Spellplague (but not from Abier - it could have been from Hepmonaland in GH, or Oltec/Azca in Mystara's Hollow World, or somewhere else entirely).

Tefnut isn't in the adventure per se, just a statue of her, whom they worship... but that doesn't really mean anything, especially since they came from another world altogether. Depending on how much detail I want to put into this little project, I may use Bast as a stand-in for this Tefnut (the statue/idol in question IS a cat-headed goddess, after all, and the two are connected to the same pantheon). Besides, putting Bast in a jungle setting lets her get in touch with her savage side (and I've already made the connection between Sharess and Tlazolteotl).

And since I plan to place Set/Zehir in the area as an underground cult with a growing following (they call him Sethir), that would eventually pit Bast against set... which is part of their RW dogma.




Throw in that Osiris and Isis are married.... brother and sister.... and so were Nephthys and Set. These people were big on marrying internally.... but then they did all come from Atum (I mean Ra).



* = not a documented god ON Toril
# = associated with realmspace/gods in some form

     Ra +++++++++++++++++++++++++++     Ptah#     Thoth
      |                           +
  ===========================     +
  |         |         |     |     +
Shu*  +++  Tefnut*  Bast  Hathor +++
       |                          |
  ========                      =====
  |      |                        |
 Geb +++ Nut*                   Anhur
      |
  =============================
  |         |       |         |
Isis +++ Osiris  Nephthys +++ Set +++ Mornach (archfey)
      |                    |       |
    Horus               Anubis#  Sebakar



Then there's some kind of disturbing stories that aren't documented in the realms about how some other deities came about or what they did to one another. For instance, Set essentially tried to rape Horus to prove himself "dominant", but Horus caught Set's seed in his hands. Horus goes to mama Isis, and she helps him rid himself of the seed by chopping off Horus' hands. She then helps Horus gain an erection, gathers some of his seed, and has it placed upon a lettuce plant that Set will eat. Later, Set calls to become ruler of the pantheon claiming he has spread his semen into Horus. Thoth acts as arbiter and calls to Set's semen and finds it nowhere in Horus, but then Horus has Thoth call to Horus' semen and it answers from within Set... think about that the next time you eat a salad with creamy ranch dressing.

Shut and Tefnut were created by Atum (aka Ra) masturbating

I've actually been going with the idea that Hathor was already a realmsian goddess, as a great cow "goddess".... some northmen called her Audumbla.... some call her Bhalla (possibly a shortened version of audumbla).... some ibixians, minotaurs, and yak-men worship her as Hathor in my version of Katashaka... and she eventually began morphing into other creatures to serve other pantheons.... for instance as Nekhebet the vulture headed goddess of mothers, and as Heqet the frog headed goddess of childbirth for the batrachi. In this way she'd be "kind of" like Ulutiu, Uthgar, Ubtao, and Rillifane where they have something like lesser spirit versions of themselves that serve them.

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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 10 Dec 2017 :  15:42:14  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I definitely wont be using real world mythology then, that was terrible.

Should be quite easy to have Tefnut over in Chult. There was a civil war in Mulhorand where Set, Osiris, And Horus all claimed the mantle of Ra, i doubt Set could have nearly won by himself so he almost certainly had help. Perhaps Tefnut was one of many demigods that helped Set and were banished or fled in shame or fear when Set lost.

I dont dwell or postulate on the origins of the mulan gods before arriving on Toril. I just treat them as beings that later attained true godhood, before that doesnt matter.

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Markustay
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Posted - 10 Dec 2017 :  16:36:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, Egyptian mythology is just too weird and unrealistic for our modern sensibilities.

Not like Adam and Eve... who had two SONS... who then created all the people of the world.

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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Yeah, Egyptian mythology is just too weird and unrealistic for our modern sensibilities.

Not like Adam and Eve... who had two SONS... who then created all the people of the world.



Lol, yeah, when you delve into all these religions... at their roots they get a little disturbing.

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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 10 Dec 2017 :  17:09:50  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wont be doing adam and eve either. Its one reason why i treat FR mythology as nonliteral, because real world mythology is too unrealistic.

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Markustay
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I think it was this thread where we were talking about the DoD stuff (and how you were merging some of it with the Tan Chin stuff). I just found-out (accidentally) that there is a small bit of lore concerning some of those DoD sites in Sandstorm from 3e. I am currently looking for something else (an obscure source footnote for the wiki, and I can't find the right page, dammit, so I have to READ THE WHOLE BOOK). Now you know why maps take me forever - the research never ends (but it is fun).

Anyhow, a couple of other things that struck me - there is a blurb in there that says the Plains of Purple Dust are "the remnant of a magical battle BETWEEN the deities of the ancient empires of Unther and Mulhorand". Now, most-likely that's an error on the part of a writer not completely familiar with FR (or just a bad choice of wording), but it would be fun to speculate on: Could it be possible that the Imaskari had little to do with the apocalypse that destroyed them? They were just blamed for it after the fact, by embarassed gods?

The other thing from that source is the goddess Tem-Et-Nu - female, goodly, involved with water. Sounds like an alias for Tefnut. I may use that.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Dec 2017 :  13:32:48  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(Daz, I know you're not into the god stuff, but I just have to share this)

So, it was really weird this morning when my girlfriend came to the table this morning. She reads to her daughter Jade every night before bed. Previously it was the magic tree house series, and then some other modern versions of similar. I gave her an old book of Russian fairy tales which aren't necessarily adapted for kids (in that they don't necessarily make sense to the modern reader). However, even though she and Jade didn't understand everything going on, she and Jade enjoyed it. So, I recommended she look into some of the kid's fantasy books, and so she picked up some series about "the dark". So, she would come to me and tell me about what was going on in those novels in the mornings, and I would recognize some of the creatures/things involved, but I honestly think the author was making up some stuff for his own world (which is fine, its what we do). Anyway, I'm a big Norse junkie, so when I saw that Rick Riordan (of Percy Jackson & the lightning thief fame) had started a series on the Norse... even though it was for kids, I picked it up and read it myself. So, I recommended she try this guy out. Well, she's heard me read some of the (not kiddified) Norse myths to Jade when she was about five, so she was leery (blood, etc....). But, she saw the name in scholastic reader for some Egyptian version (the Kane series), and so she bought them.

So, this morning, she comes to the breakfast table, and she's telling me all about how Rick Riordan has portrayed the gods in that version (bear in mind, I'm telling this third hand, and my girlfriend is by no means a geek into mythology like me). Basically, the gods in that series are like possessing spirits, and the wizards are people who are touched by the gods somehow. The concept of father/mother/son, etc... is often confused by the possessed because they themselves are often children/siblings/parents, etc.... Given how incarnations are done in Mulhorand and that the various royal houses interbreed with one another, this could be an interesting way to explain confusion about godly "births" in Mulhorand.

So, then my girlfriend goes on to tell me the story I just related above about how there were 360 days in the Egyptian calendar, and Geb had impregnated Nut. Ra foresaw that one of their children would overthrow him, so Ra forbade Nut from giving birth on any day of the year. So, Thoth chooses to gamble with the moon, and in his great power of gambling, he earns 5 extra days of moonlight, which he spreads out separate from the "rest of the year". So, in this version Nut gives birth to 5 children, not four, on these five extra days of the year, and those five children include Horus as well. Since Horus does in fact take over from Ra in the realms AND Horus is labeled a young god in powers and pantheons AND since Ra may have deliberately not wanted Horus to come over AND since Ao prior to the ToT let gods come and go willy nilly if they could find a way COULD Horus have been "birthed into the realms via Isis through her mother"..... you know, the ultimate F/U from Nut to Ra from across the multiverse.

Throw into this that there were actually according to accounts possibly 2 different "Horus". Horus the elder was the one that was the brother of Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys. Horus the younger was the child of Isis and Osiris. What if we were to actually pursue this concept. Basically, Ra is killed. Horus the elder is given Ra's might. Horus the elder dies (Set or maybe the orc gods do it). Osiris and Set begin quarrelling over who will lead. Nephthys covers herself with an illusion of Isis and sleeps with Osiris (maybe... the myths have this). Set kills Osiris. Isis and Nephthys gather the body of Osiris, and Isis goes to get something to bring him back. Set tricks Nephthys into revealing where the body is, chops up Osiris, and spreads the body parts around. Isis and Nephthys gather the body parts, put them back together, but they can't find Osiris' penis.... but they bring him back to life anyway. During this process, Isis becomes "pregnant" by the "undead" Osiris and flees to give birth to Horus the younger (maybe Nephthys worked to provide the seed of Osiris she had gotten previously). Osiris is unfit to rule since he "is no longer whole", and he becomes god of the underworld. Horus the younger (aka Horus-Re) and Isis live in exile for a time while Set rules, and then they come back and Horus-Re takes over.

In this concept, during this time away, perhaps certain other deities of Unther were formed. For instance, we have this story that Ishtar gives up her power to Isis. But what if Ishtar was Isis from the beginning, and she basically took up a position amongst the Untheric people when Inanna died. Since there was an established peace between Unther and Mulhorand, Set couldn't touch Isis/Ishtar while she was in Unther without starting a godswar, so maybe this is where she fled to hide and give birth to Horus-Re/Horus the younger.

Finally, on the quote that Markustay just put (the Plains of Purple Dust are "the remnant of a magical battle BETWEEN the deities of the ancient empires of Unther and Mulhorand")... one of the things that comes to mind is that possibly there was a conflict as both divine families tried to become dominant in the region. While Ao didn't stop deities from showing up, he did try and stop deities from overlapping portfolios in the same pantheon prior to the ToT. Normally, this was worked out in the Pavilion of Cynosure, far away from mortals.... but these gods can't leave Toril. This "conflict" may have been destroying gods, and with their destruction, their manifestations got destroyed? When their manifestations destroyed, nastry destruction in Raurin. Eventually, the gods lead their people away, just because they can't exist in the same place... so its about godly self-preservation.


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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 11 Dec 2017 :  15:12:08  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By all means post god stuff, i most likely wont use it but i always read and consider any idea.

In the first empire the gods of mulhorand are real physical beings (demigods).
The incarnations are people chosen by the church to be invested with divine power. Its a special ceremony that actually does infuse some divine essence into the being (making them chosen like but i dont do chosen as a template, the chosen of mystra were beings also infused by a ceremony making it just a title of that church).

So any sister brother mother daughter father som ickiness will be down to the incarnations and them marrying the demigods. I may make the title of incarnation translate into rauric as something very close to a term for close relative (gender neutral) so that when mulhorand and unther form they already begin to corrupt their origin language and mythologies with mistranslation.

So incarnation means 'of the heavenly ones' originally and when people heard the tales of the raurin empire (the century after imaskars fall) they got confused and came up with a lot of incest nonsense by mistake (the demigods themselves live in their towers and dont really care and then they ascend to true godhood after -700 DR well the mulhorandi demigods do).


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sleyvas
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Yeah, after reading the above myth..... I'm thinking about making an artifact... the Penis of Osiris.... and laugh if you will, maybe its part of the secret of the "rebirth" of the Mulhorandi gods.

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Posted - 11 Dec 2017 :  17:24:00  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is already the Rod of Life. It may be called the Ankh of Life but its a simple name change

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I really like that take on them - sometimes I think some 'Young Adult' series have more creativity than adult ones. I'll probably go that route myself - the 'spirit' (aspect/avatar) of the god is passed down through family members. And since RW egyptian (and other) mythos sometimes had conjoined gods, that would be a great way to work that in (if a mortal had a divine bloodline through BOTH parents to different Pharonic entities).

Ya know, Dazzler, for a person who tries to steer clear of 'god stuff', trying to develop the Old Empires here in a thread is like trying to take a pleasant stroll through a mine-field.


I like the idea that imaskar wasn't nearly as destroyed as Mulan history says it was - this may be a great way to fudge some inconsistencies. After all, the Shou are (canonically) known for altering their history, and they are an imaskari survivor state, so why not the Old Empires as well? Maybe this 'revisionist history' even started with the Imaskari themselves ("These poor folks were living very primitive lifestyles and were in danger, so we brought them here to protect them, and they earn their keep by doing work for us").

So perhaps Inupras(sp?) got nuked, but the real damage to the surrounding region happened gradually, as the two (really three) pantheons fought to be dominant. This would also help explain the odd dating for when Skuld was founded (it would have just been a 'backwater' settlement, and then when the Raurin was completely destroyed, it became the new capitol). The Mulan seem to have just 'erased' those first 5-7 centuries of strife from their records.

Whereas nearly all in-setting sources for the Old Empires can now be considered 'tainted' (revisionist history), a core sourcebook (like Sandstorm) might be considered untainted (unbiased by the setting itself), and thus, more true.


And I never did find that entry in Sandstorm - two footnotes in the Wiki under the Almraiven entry with 'notable locations', and neither of them were in the book. I'm starting to not trust the wiki again - seems like someone snuck-in some homebrew and put a false reference in there to hide it.

Ya know, I'm bad enough about over-researching and never finishing anything without some self-indulgent fanboi sending me on a wild goose chase.

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Some of the lore does already point to a mulan empire in raurin, it is just never developed beyond single sentences.

Ive made a bit of a history for raurin and have the empire last a little over a century before the desert causes it to fail (a bit netherese esque but deserts dont just appear they develop).

You guys can continue to discuss your god stuff. I will continue ranting about how much i hate the god stuff and everyone will be happy (well almost everyone)

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Posted - 11 Dec 2017 :  19:37:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The funny thing is, I NEVER use gods in my games. I just like theorizing about them.

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Oddly, I didn't use gods a whole lot in my game previously, but the last few times I PLAYED ..... I've been a god.... kinda... one game we played it was a "far future earth that's reverted to fantasy"... and my character thought he was Thor "reborn"... the Marvel one.... it was fun "remembering" being a doctor, Iron Man, Captain America, etc.... I played it to the hilt.

The next game, I played an elf wizard with a single level of cleric of Frey. Its amazing how much I put my worship of Frey into that character (though I played up my relationship with my brother more).

I just started a 3.5 d20 modern game (I know the rules barely), but my character in this one is not a god or a child of a god. However..... my half-sister is a daughter of Hecate. Oh, and my dad is a son of Oghma who was inflicted with cancer by Kiputytto (so I guess I AM a son of a demigod). My dad's being taken care of by my grandmother (she says she's a daughter of Thunderbird... I don't know if she means the wine or the Indian mythological figure). Oh, and I got a couple cousins, one of which is Annabeth Chase and a daughter of Athena, whose boyfriend is this jackass Percy Jackson... who got SOOOOO "rewritten" in his humility in that movie Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief. The other cousin is Magnus Chase, who is now dead.... but he likes to visit since he's an einheriar and a son of Frey, but he has this "foreign" friend Samirah who is a Valkyrie who I don't trust. But, I'm not a god.... I'm just an ex-CIA desk/computer agent who was kicked out for going AWOL to rescue my sister from a bunch of vampire cultists of Lamashtu in Syria who wanted to drink her blood.

Oh, and my backstory has all kinds of stuff where my families involvement in the middle east has been going on for years (i.e. my Dad tried to help with the Iran hostage crisis, but Jimmy Carter called him nuts for telling him the "truth" about what was going on with an Efreeti. My mom (a normal human) was capture and abused during the gulf war in Kuwait. I joined the CIA after 9/11. I was in Afghanistan when I found out from my dad that my sister had been taken by Syrian vampires. I rescued her, but I needed a transfusion. When I got some of my sister's blood in me, it awakened me to magic. So, I came back home to Massachusetts and entered Miskatonic University where I've been studying magic and how one can apply it with technology.... oh, and getting tips from that TV series Supernatural, because you know that's real.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas

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Trying to add a few flavour events for Gilgeamesqs early years. So for instance he strangled the dread wyrm of sardoch and forced open the golem gates of inupras.

Not sure if ill keep them as is, just trying to add a few throw away lines for later development.


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So latest stuff in Unthalass.

The city is split into two halves. With the River Alamber running between them.

The northern half is where the slaves and free holders live.

The southern half is where the palace district is. Its literally filled with ziggurat style multi tiered palaces all in homage of gilgeamesq's grand palace and seat of government, the ziggurat of eternal victory.

In the river mouth is a large island that houses the grand bazaar where merchants from all around come to trade. It has bridges that extend north and south over the river (both bridges have gatehouses and traffic is strictly controlled)

Both the northern and southern quarters have port facilities. The southern ones are for the big boats and are very expensive. The northern one is a wonky wooden jetty or two extending out into a mudbank. Gilgeamesq will destroy the southern docks during 1356 DR when he battles a dragon turtle.

Beneath the city are two distinct but linked layers of under city which correspond to the two floods that buried the city in silt.
The first layer is where the cult of tiamat thrives and other outcast groups from above. The deeper layer is filled with spooky monsters like Ereshikigul, and creatures known as "the buried". These monsters prey on the citizenry above and there are a lot of stories about the boogiemen who eat little children etc which are based on the predations of these monsters.

Im undecided upon where the big arena will be located. It cant be in the southern quarter as the nobles would never let the freebooters and slaves in to watch and it cant be in the southern quarter as the nobles would never set foot in that hovel. So im thinking another island in the river mouth.


As for Ereshikigul. Im thinking at the moment that she was a renegade godking from Akanu known as Ere-Shiki, who sided with the elves and fey against Akanu. Ghul is an untheric word for snake.
Gilgeamesq captured Ere-Shiki and brought her in chains to Adanu. When he became king of Akanu he started experimenting on her and twisted her form into a half human, half serpent with strange powers (like the ability to petrify people with a look or twist their form with a touch). She was left abandoned in Adanu's dungeons when Gilgeamesq became godking of Unther. When Adanu was flooded (the same year as the flood of Unthalass), Ere-Shiki escaped and followed Gilgeamesq to Unthalass where she waits her chance for revenge.

Just a few ideas thus far

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