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Taleras
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Posted - 09 Aug 2017 :  04:56:11  Show Profile Send Taleras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally finished the Sellswords series. Ran into some stretches of little to no reading lately, but I am now started on The Thousand Orcs. Can't believe I'm on book #17 of the Drizzt series...

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Thelonius
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Just finished Terry Pratchett's Pyramids. Finally liked it though it took a bit to start enjoying it. Starting to dive into Ready Player One.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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Starting to dive into Ready Player One.



That's a personal fave. It's one of the few books I've wanted to reread as soon as I completed it the first time.

His second novel, Armada, is good, but it doesn't knock it out of the park the way Ready Player One did.

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CTrunks
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I was always disappointed by the way they set that up and then went the other way with it.


I have to admit, while I can understand preferring it being a true story, I think it works better as being just a rumor or legend that started after Raistlin's death, so nobody could accurately confirm it.

quote:
The off-screen deaths at the beginning of the War of Souls trilogy bugged me, too.

When I first read the War of Souls trilogy, I genuinely enjoyed it. But this most recent re-read felt like a bit of a chore, and I think most of it falls onto Mina. I know it's popular to declare most characters a 'Mary Sue', but she really was a Mary Sue. She was apparently a perfect tactician, a perfect warrior, everyone loved her, and she was never wrong for most of the series. And because she was always right, almost everyone else, at least among the new characters, came out looking like they were either incompetent or just plain stupid.

Plus, having everything that happened between Dragons of a Summer Flame and the War of Souls trilogy be Takhisis's fault, only to hit the Grand Reset Button (after ensuring the elves were in a worse place than before, of course, since Krynnish Elves Ruin Everything), felt like a total cop out.

Anyway, in "things I am reading now" news, I've restarted the ASoIaF books, and I'm almost done Game of Thrones.
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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 28 Aug 2017 :  15:12:10  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm re-starting the Wheel of Time series (I took a "holiday" as I reading in english sometimes is too dense for me—I have to mentally translate everything I read...). I'm beginning Shadow Rising. Yeah, I'm still a long way from the finale.

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...

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Wooly Rupert
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I read Clockwork Dynasty whilst at GenCon, and very thoroughly enjoyed it -- it's making my list of best new reads of the year.

Now I'm working on After On, a kinda-sorta sequel to Year Zero. Year Zero is a fun, hilarious book, one I'd readily recommend to anyone -- so I expected the same from After On. It's not bad, but it's certainly not living up to the expectations I had for it.

I'm not sure what is next... Call of Fire by my friend Beth Cato is certainly up there, especially since we got to hang out at GenCon.

I got some other books there, too, and had a couple of other new ones already... One of the books I got at GenCon has Nazi sorcerers in WWII, a goofy concept that I quite like.

Plus, Realms reading is becoming an option again: I've never read the Haunted Lands or Brotherhood of the Griffon books, and I've heard only good things about them. I got the Brotherhood books last year, but it was only the other day that I secured a copy of the third Haunted Lands book -- copies are easier to find than some books, but not so easy as others!

Plus, I recently laid hands on all three of the "Murder In" books, which I've never read... And Death Masks is on my radar, as well, since it's focused on one of my fave things in the Realms: the Lords of Waterdeep.

I'm also looking forward to next month's release of Paradox Bound: A Novel. I've really, really enjoyed all but one of the author's novels, so I'm eager to read the new one.

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CorellonsDevout
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I'm reading more Pathfinder Tales, and started reading Stalking the Beast.

I am also reading the m/m romance series Whybourne and Griffin. I'm on the 4th book (9 books in the series so far). It's set in Victorian era America, and deals with supernatural stuff. It's well-written, and the characters are great. I'm quite into it.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 29 Aug 2017 :  15:10:40  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taleras

Finally finished the Sellswords series. Ran into some stretches of little to no reading lately, but I am now started on The Thousand Orcs. Can't believe I'm on book #17 of the Drizzt series...



Still enjoying them?

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Taleras
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Posted - 30 Aug 2017 :  01:48:56  Show Profile Send Taleras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri

quote:
Originally posted by Taleras

Finally finished the Sellswords series. Ran into some stretches of little to no reading lately, but I am now started on The Thousand Orcs. Can't believe I'm on book #17 of the Drizzt series...



Still enjoying them?



Yes! I enjoyed Entreri becoming more of a human instead of a soulless assassin with not a care for anything in the world. I finished them up and am now on The Lone Drow and am interested to see how this goes. Been waiting for the King Obould series for awhile. Every since the short stories alluding to him and the reference/meet in NWN I have wanted to know more about him!
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Posted - 30 Aug 2017 :  17:12:47  Show Profile Send RDS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

I'm re-starting the Wheel of Time series (I took a "holiday" as I reading in english sometimes is too dense for me—I have to mentally translate everything I read...). I'm beginning Shadow Rising. Yeah, I'm still a long way from the finale.



I've been reading the series for over the past 15 months during my work breaks. I just started the Gathering Storm (book 11). I got a third of the way through the books before Mr. Jordan took 2 years off to work on other projects and never went back till I got all 14.

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Wooly Rupert
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After On has finally picked up; I'm right at the end of the book and was just debating whether I should cut my lunch short to take care of things at work or just finish it... I really wanted to do the latter, but that would have meant getting home later from work...

The book now reminds me of a 2 hour movie with pacing issues... The first hour wanders about, with no discernible plot or direction. As the second hour starts, you realize the first hour was just laying a lot of groundwork and setting up everything. From minute 61 to minute 90, it is definitely building up to something, and you're seeing the shape of it.

And then from minute 90 on, it's constant, continuous action.

It takes some doing to make that work in a movie, and one hell of a payoff. I'm not sure this book manages either.

I do like the premise of the book, though: a social network that becomes an AI. And it does avoid a lot of the AI fiction tropes.

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CorellonsDevout
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quote:
Originally posted by RDS

quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

I'm re-starting the Wheel of Time series (I took a "holiday" as I reading in english sometimes is too dense for me—I have to mentally translate everything I read...). I'm beginning Shadow Rising. Yeah, I'm still a long way from the finale.



I've been reading the series for over the past 15 months during my work breaks. I just started the Gathering Storm (book 11). I got a third of the way through the books before Mr. Jordan took 2 years off to work on other projects and never went back till I got all 14.



I started reading this series when I was 12 LOL. Book 9 had just been released in paperback, and I decided to buy the series. It's a great read, if a bit slow at times.

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Taleras

quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri

quote:
Originally posted by Taleras

Finally finished the Sellswords series. Ran into some stretches of little to no reading lately, but I am now started on The Thousand Orcs. Can't believe I'm on book #17 of the Drizzt series...



Still enjoying them?



Yes! I enjoyed Entreri becoming more of a human instead of a soulless assassin with not a care for anything in the world. I finished them up and am now on The Lone Drow and am interested to see how this goes. Been waiting for the King Obould series for awhile. Every since the short stories alluding to him and the reference/meet in NWN I have wanted to know more about him!



I'd love to see Entreri get his own series apart from the whole Drizzt storyline.

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Wooly Rupert
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I decided to read that ARC of The Midnight Front that I picked up at GenCon, because the thought of a magical side of WWII is just too appealing too me.

I do think it's a bit ironic that the book doesn't go on sale for a few months, but the author could freely hand out advance reader copies.

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Taleras
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quote:
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I'd love to see Entreri get his own series apart from the whole Drizzt storyline.



Same, I love his "origin" short story. It was interesting seeing part of what made him who he is today.
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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Taleras

quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri


I'd love to see Entreri get his own series apart from the whole Drizzt storyline.



Same, I love his "origin" short story. It was interesting seeing part of what made him who he is today.



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Taleras
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Yesss, I actually listened to it first in the Legends of Drizzt collection. It was a free download on Audible so I figured what's the harm. Hadn't read any Realms stuff prior to that and only had a minor introduction to D&D in middle school playing a game with my cousin and his friends. That collection of stories got me interested in FR and it all kind of grew from there! It was interesting reading part of his childhood before learning of him as an adult and what he became.

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Scimitars of Drizzt
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Posted - 10 Sep 2017 :  23:17:04  Show Profile Send Scimitars of Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally back on the forum, after, roughly, a 1-year hiatus from reading. I've always been the type of person to go in-and-out of reading, but this year-long break has been the lengthiest one yet, and I hope it stays that way.

Anyways, as I strictly only read novels in the Realms, I've decided to return where I've left off in the Legend of Drizzt series.

I'm currently over 100 pages deep into Neverwinter. It's been alright so far, but I want to get into some new series' that isn't Salvatore or Drizzt.

Anyways, Neverwinter is intriguing but I don't know if I'll ever enjoy a Drizzt book as much as I enjoyed the early, early additions.

"Surrender now, or we will slay you!" the leader of the creatures called, a bit louder and more forcefully.
"A moment, please, my friend," Zasian said, motioning to the dwarf for patience. "We are discussing your terms."

"Ye heading off with Invo . . . Inno . . . that durned elf?"

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Originally posted by Scimitars of Drizzt

Finally back on the forum, after, roughly, a 1-year hiatus from reading. I've always been the type of person to go in-and-out of reading, but this year-long break has been the lengthiest one yet, and I hope it stays that way.

Anyways, as I strictly only read novels in the Realms, I've decided to return where I've left off in the Legend of Drizzt series.

I'm currently over 100 pages deep into Neverwinter. It's been alright so far, but I want to get into some new series' that isn't Salvatore or Drizzt.

Anyways, Neverwinter is intriguing but I don't know if I'll ever enjoy a Drizzt book as much as I enjoyed the early, early additions.



There are many awesome Realms books outside of Drizzt (though Drizzt is great). The Neverwinter quartet was my least favorite in the Drizzt saga, but it gets better after The Companions, imo.

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Thelonius
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Finished 3 minutes ago Ready PLayer One an interesting and good book but not the killing bomb they told me it was. interested in how they are gonna break those copyrights for the movie though. Starting right away Pratchett's Wyrd Sisters

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quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

quote:
Originally posted by Scimitars of Drizzt

Finally back on the forum, after, roughly, a 1-year hiatus from reading. I've always been the type of person to go in-and-out of reading, but this year-long break has been the lengthiest one yet, and I hope it stays that way.

Anyways, as I strictly only read novels in the Realms, I've decided to return where I've left off in the Legend of Drizzt series.

I'm currently over 100 pages deep into Neverwinter. It's been alright so far, but I want to get into some new series' that isn't Salvatore or Drizzt.

Anyways, Neverwinter is intriguing but I don't know if I'll ever enjoy a Drizzt book as much as I enjoyed the early, early additions.



There are many awesome Realms books outside of Drizzt (though Drizzt is great). The Neverwinter quartet was my least favorite in the Drizzt saga, but it gets better after The Companions, imo.



I agree; personally, I very much enjoyed the WOTSQ series. I've also read Forsaken House, and The Gossamer Plain, and I plan on finishing each respected series. I'm also very much looking forward to delving into other novels of the Realms, such as the works of Cunningham, Greenwood, and others who are well-known in the Realms community. I was surprised to see that there's still another 8 books to go until I reach the most recent installment of the Drizzt saga, Hero. Regardless, I'm eager to catch up to the final book, even if it takes me awhile to get there.

"Surrender now, or we will slay you!" the leader of the creatures called, a bit louder and more forcefully.
"A moment, please, my friend," Zasian said, motioning to the dwarf for patience. "We are discussing your terms."

"Ye heading off with Invo . . . Inno . . . that durned elf?"

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100 pages or so into Neverwinter, and I wasn't very impressed, but I must say, in my opinion, the novel has gotten considerably better.

Warning, as I will be including spoilers in my analysis.

The power struggle between the Netherese and Ashmadai, which started off as nothing special to me, has increased to a pretty darn interesting conflict in my mind.

I enjoy the back-and-forth; in-between believing the Ashmadai have the upper hand, to believing the Netherese have the upper-hand (nearing the end of the book, Valindra's side still seems superior) - while at the same time having third parties such as Drizzt and Dahlia, and arguably the Neverwinter folk, having their own designs. It's a refreshing change from the usual Drizzt adventures - the only Drizzt novel I can think of, of the top of my head that is similar, is The Pirate King, where there's a similar power struggle, but it's just not the same within the confines of a city.

As I'm increasingly enjoying this novel though, I'm hit with something that vexes me greatly... Entreri's return?

I can understand how a lot of readers may be excited, perhaps happy, that Entreri has returned, but when I first read that line where Drizzt acknowledges Barrabus's true identity, I could not help but elicit the most heavy and exaggerated eye roll. Of course, Salvatore...

I don't want to sit here and complain - heck, I literally stopped at the part where Drizzt acknowledges his identity, so far all that I know it isn't entirely true, and maybe there's a catch. I completely doubt that though, this must be Entreri, obviously magically enhanced throughout the years - so it's still him.

I guess all I'm getting at is that this turn of events, Barrabus not even being real - being Entreri the entire time - just annoyed me greatly. I don't even dislike Entreri as a character, it just has to do with the likeliness of it all.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. For those who may have been cheering when Entreri was introduced, honestly that's great, I'm glad you enjoyed the turn of events (maybe you even predicted it... this being the first Drizzt novel I've read in years, I had no clue what Barrabus was referring to when he mentioned previously battling Drizzt; I had maybe thought it a scene in Gauntlgrym that I had forgot). Personally, it just bothers me greatly - it mainly has to do with the realism of the scenario, and how typical I thought it to be that Salvatore maintained a popular character throughout unlikely circumstances. Still, it's definitely not impossible in the world of the Realms, and I'm of course still going to finish the Drizzt saga. To be honest, this isn't the biggest issue I've had with The Legend of Drizzt - in other words, I don't want to rattle anybody the wrong way with my potentially irritating opinion.

Obviously, I can live with this change of events, and I'm still looking forward to the rest of the novel and series. I hate to rant like this, to knock somebody the wrong way who maybe revels the return of Entreri, but it's just my opinion. Heck, Entreri was a good character, it's not to do with that, it's just the unlikeliness of his return following the Spellplague. And I'm sure the story of his prolonged survival is explained in detail.

To conclude, I'm not bashing Salvatore's writing at all, I'm just expressing my opinion on Barrabus/Entreri.

"Surrender now, or we will slay you!" the leader of the creatures called, a bit louder and more forcefully.
"A moment, please, my friend," Zasian said, motioning to the dwarf for patience. "We are discussing your terms."

"Ye heading off with Invo . . . Inno . . . that durned elf?"

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Scimitars of Drizzt

100 pages or so into Neverwinter, and I wasn't very impressed, but I must say, in my opinion, the novel has gotten considerably better.

Warning, as I will be including spoilers in my analysis.

The power struggle between the Netherese and Ashmadai, which started off as nothing special to me, has increased to a pretty darn interesting conflict in my mind.

I enjoy the back-and-forth; in-between believing the Ashmadai have the upper hand, to believing the Netherese have the upper-hand (nearing the end of the book, Valindra's side still seems superior) - while at the same time having third parties such as Drizzt and Dahlia, and arguably the Neverwinter folk, having their own designs. It's a refreshing change from the usual Drizzt adventures - the only Drizzt novel I can think of, of the top of my head that is similar, is The Pirate King, where there's a similar power struggle, but it's just not the same within the confines of a city.

As I'm increasingly enjoying this novel though, I'm hit with something that vexes me greatly... Entreri's return?

I can understand how a lot of readers may be excited, perhaps happy, that Entreri has returned, but when I first read that line where Drizzt acknowledges Barrabus's true identity, I could not help but elicit the most heavy and exaggerated eye roll. Of course, Salvatore...

I don't want to sit here and complain - heck, I literally stopped at the part where Drizzt acknowledges his identity, so far all that I know it isn't entirely true, and maybe there's a catch. I completely doubt that though, this must be Entreri, obviously magically enhanced throughout the years - so it's still him.

I guess all I'm getting at is that this turn of events, Barrabus not even being real - being Entreri the entire time - just annoyed me greatly. I don't even dislike Entreri as a character, it just has to do with the likeliness of it all.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. For those who may have been cheering when Entreri was introduced, honestly that's great, I'm glad you enjoyed the turn of events (maybe you even predicted it... this being the first Drizzt novel I've read in years, I had no clue what Barrabus was referring to when he mentioned previously battling Drizzt; I had maybe thought it a scene in Gauntlgrym that I had forgot). Personally, it just bothers me greatly - it mainly has to do with the realism of the scenario, and how typical I thought it to be that Salvatore maintained a popular character throughout unlikely circumstances. Still, it's definitely not impossible in the world of the Realms, and I'm of course still going to finish the Drizzt saga. To be honest, this isn't the biggest issue I've had with The Legend of Drizzt - in other words, I don't want to rattle anybody the wrong way with my potentially irritating opinion.

Obviously, I can live with this change of events, and I'm still looking forward to the rest of the novel and series. I hate to rant like this, to knock somebody the wrong way who maybe revels the return of Entreri, but it's just my opinion. Heck, Entreri was a good character, it's not to do with that, it's just the unlikeliness of his return following the Spellplague. And I'm sure the story of his prolonged survival is explained in detail.

To conclude, I'm not bashing Salvatore's writing at all, I'm just expressing my opinion on Barrabus/Entreri.




Just wanted to throw this out there real quick. I think Entreri's prolonged life is explained by his vampiric dagger transferring the essence of a shade to him, hence extending his time on Toril. Convenient for Salvatore to be sure.

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quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

quote:
Originally posted by Scimitars of Drizzt

Finally back on the forum, after, roughly, a 1-year hiatus from reading. I've always been the type of person to go in-and-out of reading, but this year-long break has been the lengthiest one yet, and I hope it stays that way.

Anyways, as I strictly only read novels in the Realms, I've decided to return where I've left off in the Legend of Drizzt series.

I'm currently over 100 pages deep into Neverwinter. It's been alright so far, but I want to get into some new series' that isn't Salvatore or Drizzt.

Anyways, Neverwinter is intriguing but I don't know if I'll ever enjoy a Drizzt book as much as I enjoyed the early, early additions.



There are many awesome Realms books outside of Drizzt (though Drizzt is great). The Neverwinter quartet was my least favorite in the Drizzt saga, but it gets better after The Companions, imo.



I agree; personally, I very much enjoyed the WOTSQ series. I've also read Forsaken House, and The Gossamer Plain, and I plan on finishing each respected series. I'm also very much looking forward to delving into other novels of the Realms, such as the works of Cunningham, Greenwood, and others who are well-known in the Realms community. I was surprised to see that there's still another 8 books to go until I reach the most recent installment of the Drizzt saga, Hero. Regardless, I'm eager to catch up to the final book, even if it takes me awhile to get there.



The Last Mythal trilogy was awesome, and anything by Cunningham is great. Neverwinter was not my favorite series within the Drizzt saga, but the last books were pretty good (though I had issues with Maestro. Hero made it all worth it for me LOL.

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Originally posted by Scimitars of Drizzt

100 pages or so into Neverwinter, and I wasn't very impressed, but I must say, in my opinion, the novel has gotten considerably better.

Warning, as I will be including spoilers in my analysis.

The power struggle between the Netherese and Ashmadai, which started off as nothing special to me, has increased to a pretty darn interesting conflict in my mind.

I enjoy the back-and-forth; in-between believing the Ashmadai have the upper hand, to believing the Netherese have the upper-hand (nearing the end of the book, Valindra's side still seems superior) - while at the same time having third parties such as Drizzt and Dahlia, and arguably the Neverwinter folk, having their own designs. It's a refreshing change from the usual Drizzt adventures - the only Drizzt novel I can think of, of the top of my head that is similar, is The Pirate King, where there's a similar power struggle, but it's just not the same within the confines of a city.

As I'm increasingly enjoying this novel though, I'm hit with something that vexes me greatly... Entreri's return?

I can understand how a lot of readers may be excited, perhaps happy, that Entreri has returned, but when I first read that line where Drizzt acknowledges Barrabus's true identity, I could not help but elicit the most heavy and exaggerated eye roll. Of course, Salvatore...

I don't want to sit here and complain - heck, I literally stopped at the part where Drizzt acknowledges his identity, so far all that I know it isn't entirely true, and maybe there's a catch. I completely doubt that though, this must be Entreri, obviously magically enhanced throughout the years - so it's still him.

I guess all I'm getting at is that this turn of events, Barrabus not even being real - being Entreri the entire time - just annoyed me greatly. I don't even dislike Entreri as a character, it just has to do with the likeliness of it all.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. For those who may have been cheering when Entreri was introduced, honestly that's great, I'm glad you enjoyed the turn of events (maybe you even predicted it... this being the first Drizzt novel I've read in years, I had no clue what Barrabus was referring to when he mentioned previously battling Drizzt; I had maybe thought it a scene in Gauntlgrym that I had forgot). Personally, it just bothers me greatly - it mainly has to do with the realism of the scenario, and how typical I thought it to be that Salvatore maintained a popular character throughout unlikely circumstances. Still, it's definitely not impossible in the world of the Realms, and I'm of course still going to finish the Drizzt saga. To be honest, this isn't the biggest issue I've had with The Legend of Drizzt - in other words, I don't want to rattle anybody the wrong way with my potentially irritating opinion.

Obviously, I can live with this change of events, and I'm still looking forward to the rest of the novel and series. I hate to rant like this, to knock somebody the wrong way who maybe revels the return of Entreri, but it's just my opinion. Heck, Entreri was a good character, it's not to do with that, it's just the unlikeliness of his return following the Spellplague. And I'm sure the story of his prolonged survival is explained in detail.

To conclude, I'm not bashing Salvatore's writing at all, I'm just expressing my opinion on Barrabus/Entreri.




Just wanted to throw this out there real quick. I think Entreri's prolonged life is explained by his vampiric dagger transferring the essence of a shade to him, hence extending his time on Toril. Convenient for Salvatore to be sure.


Which is fine, I still haven't read on yet, so I'm at the scene where his identity has just been revealed.
Now that I've had time to let it settle, I'm not as annoyed with the whole situation as I was last night. Barrabus's character was growing on me, and I was just disappointed to find out that he's really Artemis. I can't lie that it is an interesting turn of events. Hoping to finish Neverwinter today.

"Surrender now, or we will slay you!" the leader of the creatures called, a bit louder and more forcefully.
"A moment, please, my friend," Zasian said, motioning to the dwarf for patience. "We are discussing your terms."

"Ye heading off with Invo . . . Inno . . . that durned elf?"

Edited by - Scimitars of Drizzt on 14 Sep 2017 19:57:51
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