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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Sep 2017 :  01:32:53  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
>>And NO HEXES. That’s why the Old Grey Box has acetate overlays for the hexes, instead of maps “spoiled” by having >>hexes drawn on them and influencing the way rivers run, mountains loom, etc.

Let me applaud him for this. It was the first time I had seen it, and I appreciated it at the time, but not as much as I have learned to as I grow older. I was actually surprised that later campaign settings didn't include similar acetate pages.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Sep 2017 :  04:59:31  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

The Old Grey Box is the 1st edition campaign setting, right?



Indeed. It's sometimes shortened to "OGB".

It helps to use those terms, because the 1E Forgotten Realms setting boxed set was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, the 2E setting boxed set was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and the 3E hardcover book that covered the setting was also called the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.

For some reason, TSR and WotC have liked reusing names. That's why we also have multiple Draconomicons and Drow of the Underdark books.

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 06 Sep 2017 :  08:43:07  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks. I was thinking of getting the OGB, but was unsure if was the 1e book or the 2e book. Now, I will get the 1e book.

EDIT:

Dear THO, can you relay yet another question for Ed?

Are Halagothra's (the healer from Tarmalune) powers somehow related to Amaunator? (Glindarra, her granddaughter, seems to be somehow related with Amaunator...)

Thanks in advance.

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...

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Baldorar
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Spain
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Posted - 07 Sep 2017 :  09:42:16  Show Profile Send Baldorar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot THO!

I really appreciate that you guys are taking the time to answer all these questions and I thank you again for taking the time to response yourself, knowing that Ed is overwhelmed lately.

Always wanted a more Greenwoodian approach to the Realms. His creativity and enthusiasm is just contagious! Not to say that I don't like other authors who have worked on the Realms, Paul (Jennell) Jacquays is a good example of an author I appreciate a lot (also for the Judges Guild stuff).

I am more leaning to the 'old-school' kind of playing but there's plenty of stuff ruleswise that I tend to ignore. I play everthing OD&D-AD&D up to 2nd Ed. And yep, I have the same point of view in respect to having a Tarrasque in a dungeon and a Dragon in the next room and that kind of illogical stuff (except if there is a GOOD reason for it).

I don't use hexes either, and I find the idea of including the acetate overlays really clever and useful. Nevertheless, I don't know how to approach exploring a map and finding secondary encounters/dungeons without a hex map. It can be a bit too random and chaotic IMHO. Imagine there's a forest with a cave and a dungeon in it, if your players want to go into the forest, how do you determine they find any of the two or none at all? This is also a question for the other scribes, btw :-)

Another thing that came to mind is that I always wanted to see how he keys dungeons. If he goes full description, puts some notes or just makes up everything on the go. I purchased 'Ed Greenwood presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms' last week, but it still needs some time to arrive to Spain. The thing is that rumor has it it brings some samples of his typewritting and hand-drawn maps in it. I can't wait to hold that book in my hands!


Edited by - Baldorar on 07 Sep 2017 09:44:26
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Barastir
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Posted - 11 Sep 2017 :  11:30:03  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Back in 2013 I made the following question:

In the Volo's Guide to the North the legend of the Moondark Mountains, an ancient elven cluster of magic-rich citadels, whose inhabitants apparently left the world through Spelljamming. Have any newer lore been published that confirms those tales, and that says of which elven realms those citadels were part? And I've also noted that the name of the temple of Solonor the Archer God in Evereska is "Moondark Hill". Is there any connections between those places?

At the time, Ed said I hit an NDA which apparently would be revealed soon. Was it, after all?

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TBeholder
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Posted - 12 Sep 2017 :  17:34:39  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

P.S. And I believe Ed stands with Wooly re. chromatic magics, including color spray and prismatic and all "dazzling hues" magic.

I figured this probably includes prismatic, but that's Ed, he always invents more spells.
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Back in 2013 I made the following question:

Moondark Mountains

The only answer was that "there are still Moondarks around".
NDA "but not for all that long" in August 2013 could mean "The Moondark Mystery" FtR article, indeed.

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uaintjak
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Posted - 14 Sep 2017 :  01:44:19  Show Profile  Visit uaintjak's Homepage Send uaintjak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello all! I have a character who is a half-elven cavalier of Waterdeep, a squire of Caladorn Cassalanter. Which noble families of Waterdeep are most likely to produce such a character, given that he's half-elven? Also, are there any famous (or at least reputable) half-elven cavaliers that this character might idolize and aspire to imitate? Thanks for any replies and insight.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Sep 2017 :  03:05:11  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by uaintjak

Hello all! I have a character who is a half-elven cavalier of Waterdeep, a squire of Caladorn Cassalanter. Which noble families of Waterdeep are most likely to produce such a character, given that he's half-elven? Also, are there any famous (or at least reputable) half-elven cavaliers that this character might idolize and aspire to imitate? Thanks for any replies and insight.



Half-elves are not common among Waterdhavian nobility; the noble families have a thing about keeping noble blood in human veins.

Me, if I wanted a noble-born Waterdhavian half-elf, I'd either have the half-elf be illegitimate (and likely not even officially acknowledged), or the half-elf would be something like the third son, by a second wife, or would be the offspring of a second or third son -- pretty much, born in such a way to not be anywhere near the line of succession.

As for notable half-elves to emulate, I'd say (depending on the era you're using) that the half-elven sons of Alustriel are a very good choice. From friend Steven Schend:

quote:
Hail and well met. With some insistence on Ed's part (and Eric Boyd's and a few other who shall remain nameless), I'm ending my sabbatical and returning to the Realms as a fan and fellow Waterdhavian by proxy.

As for Ed's comment, I did a dig through the hard drive to find the info I had set aside long ago (circa 1996-1997ish, during the design of Cloak & Dagger). Even so, no reason to leave it buried.

Bear in mind though, folks, that none of this lore is at all official, since I'm no longer affiliated with Wizards save by old friendships and some very occasional work. With that in mind, here's what my old brain came up with for Alustriel's Sons aka the Tall Ones.
Steven Schend

Who unofficially adopted Silverymoon as a pet project for a few years before leaving WotC in 2000

Actually, I found it in the back of 7 Sisters, under Alustriel's bit in the campaign use chapter. They allegedly all use the surname Aerasume, which translates to Silverymoon, though I'm going to amend that and scatter their surnames among our three options now (though all with the same father). Their names are (alphabetically) Andelver, Boesild, Dolthauvin, Elinthalar, Ghaelryss, Inthylyn, Lilinthar, Methrammar, Naerond, Raerilarr, Tarthilmor, and Uoundeld. They seem to have connections to the Harpers (since they can contact Cylyria Dragonbreast and Sharanralee of Everlund as well as Mom....).

Tarthilmor Aerasume (CG hem F11/W12) is set as one of the two Captains of the Spellguard under Jorus Azuremantle. DRAGON ANNUAL #1, p60

Methrammar Aerasume, the Shining Guard (LG hem F14/W12) and commander of Luruar's armies. THE NORTH, Cities p55

At this point, here's my suggestions for birthdates and whatnot on these guys (of whom there are now 17, but 5 of them are either unknown to the Silverymoon folks but famous within the Moonwood and their father's people or are dead:

Alustriel Silverhand + Taerntym Tanagathor/"Taern Moonweather" (sorta married, at least as elves go...)

Dalbrant Tanagathor (1240 - 1313?) Disappeared while on quest for Taerntym

Hardorbryn Tanagathor (1242 - 1343) Twin of Alondel; died in battle with the Moonlight Men

Alondel Tanagathor (1242 - 1343) Twin of Hardorbryn; died in battle with the Moonlight Men

Boesild Aerasume (1244 - ?) Oldest known/acknowledged surviving son of Alustriel; former apprentice of Khelben the Elder just after he left Waterdeep in 1256; now part of the Teukiira/Moonstars.

Elnriyr Moonweather (1250 - 1347) Priest of Sehanine; died in the fire that destroys Everdusk Hall

Baerndar Tanagathor (1266 - ?)

Uoundeld of Silverymoon (1269 - ?) Teacher at the Lady's College (Tactical & Strategic Spellcasting)

Dolthauvin Aerasume (1295 - ?) Wanderer in the Moonwood & Coldwood

Elinthalar Tanagathor (1299 - ?) Twin of Andelver; wanderer of Lurkwood

Andelver Tressymfriend (1299 - ?) Twin of Elinthalar; wanderer of Lurkwood

Methrammar Aerasume (1304 - ?) The Shining Guard & most recognized son of Alustriel

Inthylyn of Silverymoon (1314 - ?) ?????????????????

Lilinthar Moonweather (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Naerond & Tarthilmor; huntmaster of Moonweather clan in Moonwood?

Naerond Aerasume (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Lilinthar & Tarthilmor; crusader/mage for Mystra?

Tarthilmor Aerasume (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Naerond & Lilinthar; Spell Captain of the Spellguard in Silverymoon

Raerilarr Aerasume (1340 - ?) Smallest of Tall Ones at 6'7" and nicknamed "Tiny" by brothers; most hot-tempered of brothers, rabid drow hunter (and prejudiced vs. dwarves for some reason)

Ghaelryss the Bold (1345 - ?) Uses no surname, raised in Silverymoon, living in Everlund?

I see the younger ones bonding more like brothers, while the older ones (especially those among the elves) are almost more like uncles or foster fathers to the others, as Alustriel got too busy to help raise the children in the 1270s and 1340s (see Silverymoon timeline). How their levels and abilities differ, and how their deific backgrounds (as grandchildren of Mystra) might be reflected along with their half-elven blood is yet unknown--I see a few with silver hair, all of them with longer lifespans than average half-elves, and enhanced abilities almost equal to full elves (due to ties to Weave, including reverie rather than sleep).

How's that? With this being the case, I've adopted Boesild as my regional contact for Khelben, and we can easily ensconce him in the Vault of the Sages or the Lady's College in Silverymoon. That work for you?
SES

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DenverJack
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Posted - 16 Sep 2017 :  20:00:35  Show Profile Send DenverJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed and THO - are you familiar with The Night Wolf Inn? If so, any ideas on where in the Realms it might fit in?

Any ideas from anyone else?

Thanks
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by DenverJack

Ed and THO - are you familiar with The Night Wolf Inn? If so, any ideas on where in the Realms it might fit in?

Any ideas from anyone else?

Thanks



There's a place in Arabel by that name... Or are you referring to this Night Wolf Inn?

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DenverJack
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I was referring to the Anthony Huso version of The Night Wolf Inn - thanks for the clarification there Wooly
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AJA
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Posted - 18 Sep 2017 :  00:45:38  Show Profile Send AJA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dearest Edifying Ed,

Having recently arrived in Waterdeep, I find myself enthusiastically recommended to the delicate charms of Dancing Darella of Lackpurse Lane, and to Sharleene of Slop Street. Enticing as they sound my tastes happen to run more to the cephalopodan, and so I ask for your assistance in providing more information on one Ilyth of the Gentle Tentacles who, I am told, I most definitely "should not miss the embraces of." What say you, my fancy man?


(For anyone who doesn't know what I'm on about, check Volo's seventh annotation on the 1996 Forgotten Realms Conspectus where he namedrops these, um....ladies?)

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sleyvas
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Posted - 18 Sep 2017 :  13:52:56  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Make sure to tell Ilyth to stay away from your posterior unless you're into that... just saying.

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AJA
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Posted - 18 Sep 2017 :  16:29:29  Show Profile Send AJA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I see you've never been to Anything Flows, the heated saltwater baths down in Dock Ward staffed entirely by (very non-judgemental) awakened octopi. It's like Japanese hentai, only with far less teeth and bad hairdos.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by AJA

I see you've never been to Anything Flows, the heated saltwater baths down in Dock Ward staffed entirely by (very non-judgemental) awakened octopi. It's like Japanese hentai, only with far less teeth and bad hairdos.



It's always Tako Tuesday, there!

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