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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Dec 2016 :  01:30:07  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Anyone have a physical copy of City of Gold?

My pdf copy is missing a map piece, and I am right in the middle of trying to piece the map back together. I used to have these maps, but like everything else, they were lost in the fire. The piece that says 'Dog People' was scanned twice, hence the problem (pieces 6 & 7 of the 8 are the same). If anyone has a better pdf, or can scan e that page, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks - Mark

EDIT: Nevermind - I found another pdf of it on my computer, scanned at a higher resolution, that has the missing piece. Now I have one piece that doesn't match the others, but oh well. I'm not going to start over. its just for reference, after all.



Hey Markustay.... I'm not sure where I found it, but someone had scanned in the entire city of gold map as a png and put the pieces together. Its not pretty but its better than looking at it as separate pages. If you want to PM me an address, I'll gladly send it your way.

Also, I've been playing around with campaign cartographer and recently did my own version of that region. Its horrid compared to your work, but if you'd like it, I'm willing to share that as well.

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Markustay
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Posted - 11 Dec 2016 :  02:21:50  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Naw, I'm good. Thanks though. That scanned-in map would have saved me some time, but I've gotten pretty fast at pasting them back together. That was one of the very few I never bothered to do before.

Working on the Maztica + Abeir map again... amongst other things.

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 05 Jan 2017 :  21:00:50  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi. I'm wondering if Seethyr is still working in this project.

As for Abeiran stuff, I've finished the Brimstone Angels saga. If Markustay need help with lore about Abeir nature, you can contact me here or in the FR wiki.

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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Jan 2017 :  22:40:17  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, this (map) project is on the back-back burner for now. I have no idea if Seethyr is continuing this.

I am trying to finish one map today which I shouldn't have even bothered with (it was just too cool once I began paying around), and then I still want to re-release my Eastern Heartlands map (Director's Cut), and finally finish the last couple of things I never got to on my Shaareach map (which will be another re-release).

And all of that, before I get back to the actual NEW project I am doing. And once the first two installments of THAT is done, I'll get back to Returned Abeir & Maztica... maybe. Although, honestly, I'm just not 'into it' that much anymore (the hybrid version). I think Ed's RA lore would be better-served somewhere 'closer to home', as in, 'Faerûn proper'. Halruaa-lovers weren't too thrilled with my last solution, so I'm still mulling it all over. Perhaps in place of Lantan? (and PLEASE, there can't possibly be that many 'Lantan lovers' out there, could there be? Who the heck was using it?!)

Dammit... now you have me thinking about this again... I may need to take some Ritalin...

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Edited by - Markustay on 05 Jan 2017 22:46:14
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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Jan 2017 :  02:04:20  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Well, this (map) project is on the back-back burner for now. I have no idea if Seethyr is continuing this.

I am trying to finish one map today which I shouldn't have even bothered with (it was just too cool once I began paying around), and then I still want to re-release my Eastern Heartlands map (Director's Cut), and finally finish the last couple of things I never got to on my Shaareach map (which will be another re-release).

And all of that, before I get back to the actual NEW project I am doing. And once the first two installments of THAT is done, I'll get back to Returned Abeir & Maztica... maybe. Although, honestly, I'm just not 'into it' that much anymore (the hybrid version). I think Ed's RA lore would be better-served somewhere 'closer to home', as in, 'Faerûn proper'. Halruaa-lovers weren't too thrilled with my last solution, so I'm still mulling it all over. Perhaps in place of Lantan? (and PLEASE, there can't possibly be that many 'Lantan lovers' out there, could there be? Who the heck was using it?!)

Dammit... now you have me thinking about this again... I may need to take some Ritalin...



I don't see a lot of Lantan lovers, but Returned Abeir dwarfs Evermeet by like triple its size and Evermeet dwarfs by like double its size.... unless I'm misreading you and you're just wanting to stick it off the western coast of Lantan... which yeah, that could work.... Nelanther pirates nearby... Chult nearby... Moonshaes nearby unless you make it southwest of Lantan.

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Gyor
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Posted - 26 Aug 2017 :  22:46:26  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In Volo's guide it has the Tabaxi worshipping the Cat Lord, not the Maztican Gods.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 Aug 2017 :  00:56:51  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

In Volo's guide it has the Tabaxi worshipping the Cat Lord, not the Maztican Gods.



Volo's Guide mentions a god that some Tabaxi worship. If there's one thing I've learned it's that no god has exclusive control over any given race. Some lizard folk worship someone other than Semuanya, some bugbears worship someone other than Hruggek, etc...

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TBeholder
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Posted - 31 Aug 2017 :  17:13:36  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, and also
quote:
On the Night of Wailing, the drow became driders

But IIRC there was something about monopoly on drider form being one of the few things about which Lolth is consistent?
Specifically, that unless this transformation is performed in the authorised way (by her priestess via specific ritual with a Handmaiden present), this attracts Spider Queen's own attention - the victim reverts in a few rounds no matter what spell it was, and for the transgressor, well, things are bound to get ugly and personal.

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Markustay
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Posted - 31 Aug 2017 :  18:50:09  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just for Shiggles (thanks Wooly ), my 'Maztica Pantheon IS the Draconic Pantheon' table (with a couple of extras)

Maztica/Draconic Pantheon


Azul  (LE)        'Giver of Rain, Taker of Breath'      Null (LE)           Dragon god of Death (Falazure)
Eha  (CN)               Wind Sprite (Breath)            Asterinian (CN)         Messenger of Asgorath
Kiltzi  (CG)          Health, Growth, & Love            Hlal (CG)           Humor, inventiveness, pleasure
Kukul  (N)         “Ancient Father of the Gods”         Io (N)                   Father of Dragonkind
Maztica  (N)          aspect of Earthmother             World Serpent (N)     Reality (Prime Material)
Nula  (CN)             Guardian of Animals              Kareska (CN)          Goddess of Dragon Magic
Plutoq  (LN)      Earth God (punishes insolence)        Lendys (LN)               God of Justice     
Qotal   (LG)          'The Feathered dragon'            Bahamut (LG)            'The Justicemaker'
Tezca  (CE)            God of sun and fire              Garyx (CE)          God of fire and destruction
Watil  (NG)               Guardian of Plants            Tamara (NG)              'Goddess of Life'
Zaltec  (CE)           Warbringer, Heart-Eater          Zehir (NE)             'The Dark Whisperer'

Theoretical:
Quetzalcoatl – Jazirian
Tlazolteotl - Sharess

From Anchoromé:
Coyote - Nathair Sgiathach (although I picture him having a Capuchan Monkey aspect in Maztica).
Raven - Asterinian


Null is actually perfect for Azul - he has two aspects, one a 'bringer of life', the other, of death (just like Azul). Kereska is probably the biggest stretch, but I figure its a 'primal thing' - the power of Raw magic is connected to the pure physicality (strength, constitution) of The Prime Material, which is represented by 'the Beast' (primal power). I look at it this way - primitive cultures are very concerned with their livestock, and a lot of their magic probably revolves around using and protecting that, so over time, magic itself becomes affiliated with beasts. Plus, there is the whole 'guardian spirit' thing where tribal magic is concerned. Like I said, thats a stretch, but the rest are good fits.

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Edited by - Markustay on 31 Aug 2017 18:59:39
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 Aug 2017 :  20:16:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Just for Shiggles (thanks Wooly ),



I wish I could take credit for inventing that one. I just happened to overhear some random person at GenCon say it.

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Jürgen Hubert
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Posted - 23 Oct 2017 :  08:32:40  Show Profile  Visit Jürgen Hubert's Homepage Send Jürgen Hubert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jürgen Hubert

Hello, everyone!

This is my first time posting on Candlekeep, though some here might recognize me from elsewhere. The establishment of the Dungeon Master's Guild rekindled my own interest in the Forgotten Realms, including writing material for the Forgotten Realms - and like Seethyr, I am especially fascinated by Maztica.

I have my own vision and interpretation of how Maztica may have changed due to its trip to Abeir and back again, focusing mainly on how invasive species and ideas have shaped the continent in the interim. I am still at the brainstorming phase, but my thoughts so far can be seen in this RPGNet thread.

Originally I was hesitant in coming here, not wishing to step on Seethyr's toes, but he just contacted me and we have come to an agreement that it is much better to collaborate and plunder each others' awesome ideas instead of not talking to each other. ;)

The main development threads will continue to be separate - this thread will be about Seethyr's interpretation while I will continue to discuss my interpretation on RPGNet. However, if you see something interesting there and come up with a way to fit it into this version of Maztica, don't hesitate to bring it up here. I shall certainly do the reverse over there. ;)

Beyond that, you might also be interested in the RPGNet thread for my discussions of official Maztica material, which I am currently reading through. I have finished with the Boxed Set - its discussion starts here, and am currently reading through "Ironhelm", the first Maztica novel, starting on this page.

I am looking forward to what we can come up with together!



As a short update, while I had taken a lengthy break from this project I am now back and I have restarted the RPGNet thread.

My current sub-project is to build the twin cities of Ulatos-Dragonport in greater detail - it is once more the primary port of entry for visitors from Faerun now that the Godless Time has ended, but it has gone through many changes in the intervening time. And visitors might find it all too easy to stumble into one of the many plots of a nation that has newly won its freedom, but which has not yet decided what kind of nation it wants to be...

A German Geek - my gaming blog
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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 23 Oct 2017 :  15:51:16  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks! Since Seethyr disappeared, the ideas I developed for his project were left adrift. I guess I'm going to read your work and see if I can rework my ideas to match yours.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  02:14:20  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jürgen Hubert

quote:
Originally posted by Jürgen Hubert

Hello, everyone!

This is my first time posting on Candlekeep, though some here might recognize me from elsewhere. The establishment of the Dungeon Master's Guild rekindled my own interest in the Forgotten Realms, including writing material for the Forgotten Realms - and like Seethyr, I am especially fascinated by Maztica.

I have my own vision and interpretation of how Maztica may have changed due to its trip to Abeir and back again, focusing mainly on how invasive species and ideas have shaped the continent in the interim. I am still at the brainstorming phase, but my thoughts so far can be seen in this RPGNet thread.

Originally I was hesitant in coming here, not wishing to step on Seethyr's toes, but he just contacted me and we have come to an agreement that it is much better to collaborate and plunder each others' awesome ideas instead of not talking to each other. ;)

The main development threads will continue to be separate - this thread will be about Seethyr's interpretation while I will continue to discuss my interpretation on RPGNet. However, if you see something interesting there and come up with a way to fit it into this version of Maztica, don't hesitate to bring it up here. I shall certainly do the reverse over there. ;)

Beyond that, you might also be interested in the RPGNet thread for my discussions of official Maztica material, which I am currently reading through. I have finished with the Boxed Set - its discussion starts here, and am currently reading through "Ironhelm", the first Maztica novel, starting on this page.

I am looking forward to what we can come up with together!



As a short update, while I had taken a lengthy break from this project I am now back and I have restarted the RPGNet thread.

My current sub-project is to build the twin cities of Ulatos-Dragonport in greater detail - it is once more the primary port of entry for visitors from Faerun now that the Godless Time has ended, but it has gone through many changes in the intervening time. And visitors might find it all too easy to stumble into one of the many plots of a nation that has newly won its freedom, but which has not yet decided what kind of nation it wants to be...



So, did you do any of the Maztica Alive stuff up on DM's Guild? The base Maztica update was pretty good, and I must admit to really liking the Lopango update, though I'm working the edges of it (the portions of the Lopango map that are unseen). I'm also changing one major premise, in that the "gods were silent". I'm actually having them being there (initially even as weakened avatars like what were seen during the ToT... some actually getting killed in conflict with Primordials or dragons).


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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  02:29:40  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AFAIK, the Maztican products on DMs Guild are Seethyr's.

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Jürgen Hubert
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  04:28:30  Show Profile  Visit Jürgen Hubert's Homepage Send Jürgen Hubert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I have nothing up at the DM's Guild... so far. I do hope to publish some Maztica stuff there sometime next year, but it's too early to say when.

Note that my own version of Maztica is rather different than Maztica Alive - it was heavily inspired by the book "1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created" by Charles Mann on how the Columbian Exchange changed the world. Consider how Mesoamerica changed in our world after the Spanish conquest... and in this world, the "Spanish" occupation ended prematurely after a few decades and was replaced by rule by dragon overlords and their minions. Now, in the current (5e) era Maztica is largely entering a "post-colonial" phase - going through massive changes while never really abandoning its old traditions entirely.

Plus, during its sojourn on Abeir, the land picked up a lot of new inhabitants...

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sleyvas
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  12:59:06  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jürgen Hubert

Yeah, I have nothing up at the DM's Guild... so far. I do hope to publish some Maztica stuff there sometime next year, but it's too early to say when.

Note that my own version of Maztica is rather different than Maztica Alive - it was heavily inspired by the book "1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created" by Charles Mann on how the Columbian Exchange changed the world. Consider how Mesoamerica changed in our world after the Spanish conquest... and in this world, the "Spanish" occupation ended prematurely after a few decades and was replaced by rule by dragon overlords and their minions. Now, in the current (5e) era Maztica is largely entering a "post-colonial" phase - going through massive changes while never really abandoning its old traditions entirely.

Plus, during its sojourn on Abeir, the land picked up a lot of new inhabitants...



Ah, looks like the stuff I've been looking at has been a John and Theodore Hild. I like what they did with Lopango and Maztica (except for the silent gods). I'm not so big on Esmerelda.

Ah, you are definitely going a different direction than me then. For the most part, the people of Abeir and the people of Maztica/Anchorome/Katashaka will only tertiarily test the boundaries of each other. Much as how Returned Abeir and Toril didn't exactly get involved with each other a whole lot. For Katashaka, the nyamma-numo may be the reason the continent sees little encroachment (i.e. dragon and his dragonborn servants show up.... tarrasque kills the dragon, dragonborn leave or get sacrificed or eaten by the natives). Similarly, dragon shows up in Maztica, it may be that Zaltec himself shows up and kills the dragon. Similar up in Anchorome with "Great Spirits". This increases their religious fervor. Even if it only happens once or twice in a given area, it may be enough to discourage the dragonlords to stay away from these areas.

Nimbral, Lantan, and Halruaa may have interacted more with Abeir, but I don't plan to cover those much (if at all). Some of the other areas, such as the areas in southeastern Faerun will have had involvement, so I plan on doing something to explain the interaction. However, I have been playing with the idea of what might Lantan do when transferred to Abeir. I could see them getting involved with the people of Helmsport. One of the things I was discussing in another thread was "what if they had been playing with lightning energy". It could prove interesting if say they've captured a god of lightning or the sky or rain or thunder or wind and they've developed something akin to a tesla coil that can power "golems" within a certain range (using wind or water mills or direct lightning strikes). Anyway, by limiting the range, it enables them to protect a settlement, but not so much expand. Maybe they develop limited storage batteries to allow them to explore a bit with a golem servant.

Hell, as I say that.... the Mulhorandi had the statues that walked and were into technology like dams, and they just quit working. I wonder....

I also plan to have Osse have had involvement with Abeir, in a hinted at form for future development (as in the islanders off the eastern coast know of changes through rumors, but they don't have to live with the issues and they rarely visit the "mainland"). Just what and how much of Osse transferred over I'm also leaving very open.

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