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George Krashos
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Posted - 01 Aug 2020 :  01:14:45  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The adventure requires you to fight Auril ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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sleyvas
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Posted - 01 Aug 2020 :  01:43:53  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Baltas

Hmm:
- the cold crone. It’s this old, hunched, tripartite creature that combines the features of a goat, a wolf, and an owl. - Cegilune?
- Her middle form is called the brittle maiden—a svelte, angular, feminine creature made of jagged ice. - Aurilandür?
- winter’s womb, resembling a radiant diamond that contains her divine spark. It represents Auril in her most primal form. - the Black Diamond/Shard of Pure Evil/The Queen of Air and Darkness herself(itself?).



Yeah, I was trying to piece that concept together myself, but honestly, I am not sure they went that far. The part that surprises me most is the "radiant" diamond.... so, shining bright. If its travelling backwards in time too, that just kind of doesn't fit that that's her at her most basic if that's also the black diamond.

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 01 Aug 2020 :  01:44:23  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, in three forms. That someone on Twitter described as WotC Freudian views on women,

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 01 Aug 2020 :  04:36:10  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Wolf and owl, OK sure, wolves and snowy owls are cool imagery for ice and snow. Goats though? Goats? Sure, mountain goats can live in pretty cold temperatures but they're not cool like wolves and owls.

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Baltas
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Posted - 01 Aug 2020 :  13:10:34  Show Profile Send Baltas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The adventure requires you to fight Auril ...

-- George Krashos



quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

Yeah, in three forms. That someone on Twitter described as WotC Freudian views on women,



Hmm, I think JRPGs, and up to a level computer and console RPGs are an influence for an idea to "fight a god", and the multi-fazed, multiform nature of it.

With Freudian nature, I think though the battle with Auril is indeed influenced by the idea of the Three Faces of Eve/the Triplicate goddess.

I also expanded on it though possibly having a deeper sense (ie the multiple hosts of the Black Diamond).

I guess though this battle would also male more sense lorewise, if it followed Brian R, James suggestion the "Auril" is in reality the Queen of Air and Darkness/The Black Diamond, weakened without a host.
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Yeah, I was trying to piece that concept together myself, but honestly, I am not sure they went that far. The part that surprises me most is the "radiant" diamond.... so, shining bright. If its travelling backwards in time too, that just kind of doesn't fit that that's her at her most basic if that's also the black diamond.



Well with the Radiant Diamond...it's interesting black colored objects, can give the brightest light - the sun has black body, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body

(Although I also might give WoTC to much credit XD And black body radiation being a result of heat, is cold is just ultimately the lack of heat but still...)

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-Wolf and owl, OK sure, wolves and snowy owls are cool imagery for ice and snow. Goats though? Goats? Sure, mountain goats can live in pretty cold temperatures but they're not cool like wolves and owls.



I think the goat elements, are due to the "chimera-crone" form of Auril, being inspired by Cailleach - an Gaelic hag goddess of winter, associated with goats (and "horned beasts"), as well as owls and wolves.

Edited by - Baltas on 01 Aug 2020 15:36:23
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