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Deepening Moon
Acolyte

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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  14:28:24  Show Profile Send Deepening Moon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  18:39:23  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Owesstaer

I thought that Tree Ghost & Blue Bear were 2 distinct tribes that existed parallelly: Tree Ghost looking for Grandfather Tree, and Blue Bear subject to Hellgate Keep.
So do I get this correctly now, that actually, the survivors from Blue Bear, after its downfall, became the Tree Ghost tribe after they found GF Tree!? (I hope so, because this sounds awesomely cool.)



Correct. Tree Ghosts are the breakaway Blue Bears.

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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  18:43:06  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmar

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

This doesn't add much to what you already know, but it fits in the context of a much larger discussion of the history of Siluvanede and its ruling structure.

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Myth Adofhaer
The city of Adofhaeranede, renamed Myth Adofhaer after the construction of its mythal in -5,300 DR, was the capitol of Siluvanede and the heart of the gold elf kingdom. Little is known of this once-magnificent city, as even its former location is cloaked in the passage of time. Accounts from the Seven Citadels War simply speak of a sprawling, tree-filled city, dominated by fractious gold elven noble houses who clawed for every opportunity to advance their status at the expense of their rivals.
At the end of the Seven Citadels War (-4,500 DR), the final decree of the fragmented Aronala of Siluvanede authorized the remaining untainted Siluvanedenn high mages to place the city of Myth Adofhaer in magical stasis, effectively enabling its residents to flee to the far future to escape association with the fey’ri houses. It is believed that in so doing, they wholly removed Myth Adofhaer from Faerūn, for no trace of the city’s location has ever been found.

===



Awesome, thanks! :) So, it was the capital, and not everyone inside agreed on everything. That's something. For some reason I always assumed Lothen was the capital, but I guess there was never anything stating so.

My guess at the Seven Citadels are:
Myth Adofhaer
Lothen
Telardon
Ascalhorn
Myth Glaurach
Tall Trees (can't remember the "...dar" name)
... and I dunno. The Nameless Dungeon maybe?



I think of the Seven Citadels as 5 +2.

There are 5 Dlardrageth Armories (armories created by House Dlardrageth and filled with Vyshaantaar weaponry to entice the gold elves of Siluvanedenn towards the Dlardrageth "way-of-life") and two Dlardrageth fortresses: one beneath the Horn(later Ascal's Horn or Ascalhorn or Hellgate Keep) and one in what later became Myth Drannor (Dlardrageth Keep).

Three of the armories were plundered. The fourth armory (Nameless Dungeon) was breached / restocked / breached again. The fifth armory (Citadel of the Mists) has never been breached.

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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  18:45:44  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon

Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!



http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/mc/mc20010829d

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  22:05:25  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would say I'd love to see this come together as a complete supplement. I'm old so I understand 1st and 2nd Ed stats best but that's just me - 3.5 or 5th wouldn't matter. The good part about the things you've done in the past wasn't centered on the stats, but on the great detail you put into the characters and places. Would love to see the Elves of the High Forest fully flushed out like that.
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Deepening Moon
Acolyte

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Posted - 02 May 2019 :  22:09:50  Show Profile Send Deepening Moon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Eric,
thank you for this link to Mintiper's Chapbook.
And also thank you very much for your great previews from your "Crown of Eaerlann"-adventure/sourcebook. I really like them and I'm looking forward to read more about this.
However, the Circle of the Black Hand, which is mentioned by Cosmar, must be a different group (not the Bane-worhipping Brotherhood of the Black Hand described in Mintiper's Chapbook), because in one of his messages above Cosmar describes the Circle of the Black Hand as a cabal of evil Graz'zt-worhipping Siluvaneden demon-binders... I hope, Cosmar can tell us more about the Circle of the Black Hand...

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon

Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!



http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/mc/mc20010829d

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 03 May 2019 :  00:56:35  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon
However, the Circle of the Black Hand, which is mentioned by Cosmar, must be a different group (not the Bane-worhipping Brotherhood of the Black Hand described in Mintiper's Chapbook), because in one of his messages above Cosmar describes the Circle of the Black Hand as a cabal of evil Graz'zt-worhipping Siluvaneden demon-binders... I hope, Cosmar can tell us more about the Circle of the Black Hand...



It appears to be from Cosmar's own game, so yes would be interesting to see what his DM has done here. But it won't feature in Crown of Eaerlann.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Cosmar
Acolyte

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Posted - 05 May 2019 :  21:40:23  Show Profile Send Cosmar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Eric, for that clarification on what the Seven Citadels are. I love that the Citadel of the Mists hasn't been breached yet: what a great adventure that would be!

Yes, my DM's Circle of the Black Hand is his own creation I think. It was located in the Nether Mountains in a place called the Valley of the Bear's Teeth, not far from the temple of Loviatar. The real entrance was a disguised phase door (the apparent main entrance was a trap- the door was fake and surrounded by an energy Transformation Field spell that converted any magic into a prismatic spray effect). Inside we fought a horde of allips, a couple living spells, an insane dryad ghost, a whisper demon, an advanced Flameskull (which had apparently once been the Circles leader) and a powerful feyri sorcerer my gold elf mage was tricked into freeing from this artifact called a Bloodstone Chamber the feyri wanted to recover (which was like an advanced Mirror of Life Trapping). Apparently the inhabitants had died in the Seven Citadels War when moon elf mages from Sharrven found their lair. We found some combatants from that fight frozen in stasis bubbles. The coolest thing was we found out my character's wizard/Spellguard/Harper father and his companions had already been there looking for a spellbook called the Song of Stillness, an artifact of Labelas Enoreth that contained a ritual to open a portal between planes out of temporal sync with each other, which the dad used to travel to Myth Adofhaer after his companions died. We have the spellbook now, my character had deciphered the ritual and we're questing for the components to do it ourselves (need 10k in diamonds, focii from both planes and a scale from the hide of Chronepsis).

Sorry, didn't mean that to be so long. I'll stay on topic now, I promise :)

Edited by - Cosmar on 05 May 2019 21:42:53
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Cards77
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USA
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Posted - 05 May 2019 :  23:39:36  Show Profile Send Cards77 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon

Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!



http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/mc/mc20010829d



Interesting. My group is just now searching Hellgate Keep for the stolen Staff of Silverymoon.

It would be way cooler to put it in the Crypt of the Black Hand than to just have it laying about.

Has the Crypt ever been detailed?
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
1376 Posts

Posted - 06 May 2019 :  02:05:24  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It has not other than to show where it lies vertically with regards to rest of Hellgate Keep module.

quote:
Originally posted by Cards77

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon

Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!



http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/mc/mc20010829d



Interesting. My group is just now searching Hellgate Keep for the stolen Staff of Silverymoon.

It would be way cooler to put it in the Crypt of the Black Hand than to just have it laying about.

Has the Crypt ever been detailed?


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Deepening Moon
Acolyte

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Posted - 08 May 2019 :  19:20:03  Show Profile Send Deepening Moon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Cosmar, for your summary what happened in the fey'ri lair. Sounds pretty cool, and gives some nice adventure ideas.
Good luck during the next steps of your adventures ;-)


quote:
Originally posted by Cosmar

Thanks Eric, for that clarification on what the Seven Citadels are. I love that the Citadel of the Mists hasn't been breached yet: what a great adventure that would be!

Yes, my DM's Circle of the Black Hand is his own creation I think. It was located in the Nether Mountains in a place called the Valley of the Bear's Teeth, not far from the temple of Loviatar. The real entrance was a disguised phase door (the apparent main entrance was a trap- the door was fake and surrounded by an energy Transformation Field spell that converted any magic into a prismatic spray effect). Inside we fought a horde of allips, a couple living spells, an insane dryad ghost, a whisper demon, an advanced Flameskull (which had apparently once been the Circles leader) and a powerful feyri sorcerer my gold elf mage was tricked into freeing from this artifact called a Bloodstone Chamber the feyri wanted to recover (which was like an advanced Mirror of Life Trapping). Apparently the inhabitants had died in the Seven Citadels War when moon elf mages from Sharrven found their lair. We found some combatants from that fight frozen in stasis bubbles. The coolest thing was we found out my character's wizard/Spellguard/Harper father and his companions had already been there looking for a spellbook called the Song of Stillness, an artifact of Labelas Enoreth that contained a ritual to open a portal between planes out of temporal sync with each other, which the dad used to travel to Myth Adofhaer after his companions died. We have the spellbook now, my character had deciphered the ritual and we're questing for the components to do it ourselves (need 10k in diamonds, focii from both planes and a scale from the hide of Chronepsis).

Sorry, didn't mean that to be so long. I'll stay on topic now, I promise :)

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The Masked Mage
Great Reader

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Posted - 09 May 2019 :  00:46:16  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

It has not other than to show where it lies vertically with regards to rest of Hellgate Keep module.

quote:
Originally posted by Cards77

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Deepening Moon

Hello Cosmar,
can you provide more informations/details about the Circle of the Black Hand and maybe also about Bellan'daaran?
Sounds very interesting, and I could use it very well in an adventure, which I'm running just now (concerning Siluvanede, the fey'ri and also Graz'zt). So it would fit well, and with your permission (or the permission of your DM) I would maybe use some of your background-informations...
Thanks a lot!!



http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/mc/mc20010829d



Interesting. My group is just now searching Hellgate Keep for the stolen Staff of Silverymoon.

It would be way cooler to put it in the Crypt of the Black Hand than to just have it laying about.

Has the Crypt ever been detailed?





Wasn't it described a bit in one of the Mintiper Chapbooks?
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