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Delwa
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Posted - 04 Sep 2017 :  16:23:35  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally downloaded and played through the tutorial. Gonna play through a few offline games after I get off work today. If anyone wants to try an on-line game, my name is same as here.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Sep 2017 :  16:54:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I, personally, want to get a little better before I go online. I've played like a dozen or so games against the AI, and only won 3 of them -- and one of those was just by 1 point.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 04 Sep 2017 :  23:19:37  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They've just changed the interface and on iPhone it is so horrible that it has put me off playing the game completely.

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Delwa
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Posted - 05 Sep 2017 :  02:04:12  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I, personally, want to get a little better before I go online. I've played like a dozen or so games against the AI, and only won 3 of them -- and one of those was just by 1 point.



I'm honestly having the same luck. Still wouldn't mind playing online if anyone wanted to, but the AI is tough.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 05 Sep 2017 :  12:56:18  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I, personally, want to get a little better before I go online. I've played like a dozen or so games against the AI, and only won 3 of them -- and one of those was just by 1 point.



Played two games so far. Both, I placed second, but second while tying someone else. I did this with playing against 4 opponents, two of which were at the lower level, and one the advanced. I can't honestly say I recall which person beat me though. But in the end, I haven't won yet.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Sep 2017 :  14:46:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been playing against 3 AI opponents, all Average (or whatever the middle option is) and with the Undermountain supplement added in. I've not tried with the Skullport supplement; I want a little more proficiency before I complicate it with the Corruption stuff. I've played that version in one of the only Lords of Waterdeep games I've played IRL, and while it was fun, it was also a lot more to have to think about.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  05:10:33  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So I've been continuing to play the hell out of this game, and I've been playing both expansions, now... And I find myself wondering one thing about Corruption: Is there ever a scenario where it is beneficial? A lot of the "and get rid of up to X Corruption" quests and Intrigue cards allow you to pick how much you're getting rid of. If the card says you can get rid of up to 3 Corruption, the game asks if you want to lose 1, 2, or 3 Corruption points.

So... Is there a Lord or quest or Intrigue that I've not seen yet, where Corruption is a good thing?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  05:18:49  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Xanathar player card gives you 4 "victory" bonus points for every corruption you have.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  09:35:13  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The Xanathar player card gives you 4 "victory" bonus points for every corruption you have.

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Does the Xanathar still take the penalty for having Corruption?

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Cyrinishad
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  16:10:01  Show Profile Send Cyrinishad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Does the Xanathar still take the penalty for having Corruption?



Yes, the 4 victory points is an off-set to the standard corruption penalty... So, if the Xanathar's opponent has zero corruption, the Xanathar can have 12 Corruption points for a net-zero penalty. Overall, he benefits from using cards to place corruption on the board to restrict or penalize the opponent's moves, while capitalizing on Skullport's spaces.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  18:15:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrinishad

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert


Does the Xanathar still take the penalty for having Corruption?



Yes, the 4 victory points is an off-set to the standard corruption penalty... So, if the Xanathar's opponent has zero corruption, the Xanathar can have 12 Corruption points for a net-zero penalty. Overall, he benefits from using cards to place corruption on the board to restrict or penalize the opponent's moves, while capitalizing on Skullport's spaces.




So the penalty is still there, but the Xanathar has an off-set on it? Thus, once it hits like -5 on the Corruption track, the Xanathar is as skrewt by it as anyone else?

(I've not gotten him as my Lord, yet, though I have had Halaster and Trobriand. And I really cleaned up in an offline game, the other day, when I had the Lord that gets bonus points for owning buildings -- and managed to get like 4 or 5 buildings for free, from quest rewards and such).

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Cyrinishad
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  18:58:50  Show Profile Send Cyrinishad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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So the penalty is still there, but the Xanathar has an off-set on it? Thus, once it hits like -5 on the Corruption track, the Xanathar is as skrewt by it as anyone else?




No, he always has +4 VP per Corruption... So, if the Corruption track is at -5 VP, the Xanathar's Opponents get -5 per Corruption, and the Xanathar gets -1 per Corruption.

Example: Xanathar has 12 Corruption. Opponent has 3 Corruption. Therefore, the Corruption track is -5 VP per Corruption...
Xanatar would have -12 VP. Opponent would have -15 VP.

So, Xanathar benefits from laying Corruption point "Traps" on the board. Anything that lets him collect Corruption early, and then return or redistribute it to the spaces on the board later, is huge. His magic number for Corruption is 12, use it like a resource.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  19:09:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay. Any other benefits to Corruption?

(A game I played earlier today, everyone was dropping Corruption points at the Builder's Hall. Only two buildings got played the entire game, and I think one was a freebie. There were 7 points of Corruption there by the end of the game!)

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Cyrinishad
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Posted - 13 Sep 2017 :  19:43:38  Show Profile Send Cyrinishad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No. The Corruption points are purely a VP penalty mechanism. Other Lords can still use the same Corruption tactics of return and redistribute Cards & Quests, but Xanathar can pursue those options more effectively.

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Gelcur
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Posted - 21 Sep 2017 :  05:11:07  Show Profile  Visit Gelcur's Homepage Send Gelcur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Firstly, thank you Wooly for posting about the Android release. I had given up checking for it. I absolutely love the board game it is one of my favorites and gets broken out frequently, I find just about everyone enjoys it and it is easy to learn.

So in my experience Corruption is great for push your luck, buy in early and it really speeds up your game. Go over board and the other players notice and they can really stick it to you. It adds a wonderful layer of additional decision making to the game.

I have a question is the game cross platform, could I play against iPhone/iPad users? I would love to play some games once I pick up the digital version.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Sep 2017 :  09:38:31  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gelcur

I have a question is the game cross platform, could I play against iPhone/iPad users? I would love to play some games once I pick up the digital version.



I've not tried, but I don't see why not.

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