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Sill Alias
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Kazakhstan
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Posted - 08 May 2010 :  07:35:22  Show Profile  Visit Sill Alias's Homepage Send Sill Alias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I see as more fitting candidate Kelemvor, with his discipline and law abiding (too bad Helm died). But he is relatively young.

You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias

"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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creyzi4zb12
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Philippines
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Posted - 24 Feb 2011 :  18:06:06  Show Profile  Visit creyzi4zb12's Homepage Send creyzi4zb12 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

If it is free then Karsus could snatch it as is his right upon his return


He did cast time travel..In Netheril Trilogy there were two wizards I knew of who casted Time Travel, Karsus and Candlemas. And according to Candlemas, Karsus was able to cast time travel as if he was reading the alphabet.
Actually, Candlemas advise to Karsus in defeating the Phaerrim was time travel, unfortunately Karsus thought: Karsus Avatar > Time Travel....so there, Karsus got what he deserved for being too arrogant.

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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 25 Feb 2011 :  11:48:15  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by creyzi4zb12

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

If it is free then Karsus could snatch it as is his right upon his return


He did cast time travel..In Netheril Trilogy there were two wizards I knew of who casted Time Travel, Karsus and Candlemas. And according to Candlemas, Karsus was able to cast time travel as if he was reading the alphabet.
Actually, Candlemas advise to Karsus in defeating the Phaerrim was time travel, unfortunately Karsus thought: Karsus Avatar > Time Travel....so there, Karsus got what he deserved for being too arrogant.



Unless he fooled everyone into believing that, and that in actuality he DID use time travel first to set up his return because he knew the fall of Netheril was inevitable so he had to continue in that time-stream.

Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)

Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023
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creyzi4zb12
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Philippines
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Posted - 25 Feb 2011 :  13:36:08  Show Profile  Visit creyzi4zb12's Homepage Send creyzi4zb12 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've always thought that history and fate could be changed through time travel. From DnD, maybe not Forgotten Realms..let's say, Dragonlance..Raistlin changed his identity, erased the identity of a powerful archmage, changed the world, became an exarch, became a god, did not become a god, ruled the world, and died through time travel.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 25 Feb 2011 :  14:31:59  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by creyzi4zb12

I've always thought that history and fate could be changed through time travel. From DnD, maybe not Forgotten Realms..let's say, Dragonlance..Raistlin changed his identity, erased the identity of a powerful archmage, changed the world, became an exarch, became a god, did not become a god, ruled the world, and died through time travel.



You could tie it in to different realities (some of which can be caused by a change in the time stream thus going a different route) - which are effectively different DMs own home FR campaigns as well.

Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)

Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023
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Ayrik
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Time could be governed by Ao, far too important (or the consequences too dire) to allow some underling within his quibbling pantheon to mishandle it.

This question has actually come up in my gaming so I allocated the "portfolio" of Time to the Night Serpent, Dendar.

My logic is that Dendar exists to consume the world/cosmos at the end of time, and her hunger compels her to hasten timeflow as much as possible. Yet she is also compelled (by the laws of the aptly-named Fugue) to follow the decrees of Ao and Jergal/Myrkul/Cyric/Kelemvor (whose interests do not include immediate destruction of the world) and she is thus prohibited from allowing the flow of time to be changed or interrupted in the Realms. She sustains herself and grows stronger by abusing a technicality which allows her to manipulate timeflow freely in dreams and nightmares (they are "outside" the Realms).

Various Faerūnian deities (or powerful demons, devils, hags) sometimes manage to bribe Dendar with terrified soul candy to gain her temporal manipulations (within the "detectable" maximum limits imposed on her power). Thus far (in my campaign) this has included Dendar exercising her powers to "stretch time thin" where it surrounded a critical Realms-spanning fulcrum event, making it more easily influenced - forever - by external forces (like my villain and PCs). Likewise, Dendar could probably make time "thicker" around certain events, so they'd be incredibly resilient to any attempts to change them. She can also make time flow at slightly differing rates in different regions, provided the "balance" remains constant; this might sometimes make unavoidably "fated" events happen in different sequences with possibly very different outcomes (imagine one nation's mighty army taking "longer" to reach the battlefield).

Fortunately, Dendar is tremendously lazy and gluttonous, and she spends most of her time sleeping.

It is also assumed that Dendar can have some influence on temporal divinations: meaning she can "reorder" distant past and future events so they become somewhat distorted or obscured with what she wants (or doesn't want) to be seen; this has served as a possible reason why nobody sees the deaths of the goddess of magic, etc. (Some very, very few exceptional prophets and diviners can divine the ultimate truth behind Dendar's deceptions; though they never emerge with their sanity fully intact after experiencing the many-layered nightmares Dendar uses to protect her secrets. Thus we have mad prophets and seers like Augathra, Cyric, and perhaps even Alaundo; Halaster, Laeral, and Elminster, too, may have been mentally imbalanced partly through their accumulated exposure to Dendar's foul essence.)

None of this is canon.

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 28 Feb 2011 09:19:04
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