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Faraer
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 :  02:42:44  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha.

('Not a good of Ed's time', that is, unless he wants to do it.)
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Vvornth
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 :  09:14:08  Show Profile  Visit Vvornth's Homepage Send Vvornth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Northern Moonshaes and Luskan - culture reference: Vikings (Scandinavian) (FR2/FR5), names: Norwegian, Danish, Swedish


I'd argue this, the way I see it it is the entire old Illuskan empire that was a derivate of real world vikings which can be found in pockets all over the north. Frost Giants quite obviously have stereotypical scandinavian names as well.

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Magic Matt
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Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  01:15:00  Show Profile  Visit Magic Matt's Homepage Send Magic Matt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis


I'm picturing the climate and terrain as rather like northern California wine country (even down to the Spanish architecture, although here with more of a Moorish-looking influence). Warm and pleasant most of the year, with a cooler rainy season. It sounds much more fertile than the rugged, rocky hills of Iberia, getting back to that parallel with Spain. Anyway, I'm picturing verdant, gently rolling hills, lots of trees but no dense forest, mottled with well-to-do farms (villas?) and quaint villages. Is that about right?



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That's the way I have always seen Amn.
Steven Schend, say's that's it's Moorish Spain / Southern France, (and perhaps it is in culture and style) but reading about Amn I see Napa or Monterey, and Tethyr feels like Santa Barbara!

But then again Provonce or S.W. France or even Tuscany would fit just as well!

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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I dunno, I prefer to think of Realms cultures as fantasy cultures in their own right rather than parallels of real world cultures.



I think that you almost have to pull from real life and history to read or understand fantasy. But, only as a bases to understand what the author is creating. A sword is a sword, unless the author states otherwise, then it might be a giant space hamster, ect.

Even J.R.R Tolkien pulled from real peoples and cultures (finnish for his elves [Quenya]),Anglo Saxon for Rohan, and real places (East Anglia and Oxford) for the Shire! But this is just a starting place - a point of refrence.........


MATT


Edited by - Magic Matt on 29 Jan 2006 21:06:12
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  18:57:53  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What Matt and Lemernis note above re: California wine country and Amn works for both Amn & much of Tethyr (at least the south-central parts south of the capital and east of the Omlarandins).

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Vvornth
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Speaking of Amn and Tethyr, on the timeline I noticed that two areas seceded willingly from Amn to Tethyr in 1370. This tells me that their cultures are fairly similar for such an event to take place. Anyone know the specifics in this secession?

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Kajehase
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Check out Lands of Intrigue a free download brought to you by Wizards of the Coast. ...Dear gods, I sound like a sandwichboard-man!

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Edited by - Kajehase on 19 Jan 2006 05:28:34
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 :  03:20:27  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vvornth

Speaking of Amn and Tethyr, on the timeline I noticed that two areas seceded willingly from Amn to Tethyr in 1370. This tells me that their cultures are fairly similar for such an event to take place. Anyone know the specifics in this secession?



More than most, but mayhaps not so much recent lore as things may've changed since I've been away.

And yes, the LOI download provides all the in-print and official answers and details on the secession of Trailstone and Riatavin and environs.

Steven
Who managed to slip a refence re: this very thing into BLACKSTAFF...

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Lemernis
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Posted - 02 Feb 2006 :  14:40:15  Show Profile  Visit Lemernis's Homepage Send Lemernis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just to echo what Matt observed, Steven refers to these inspirations as 'touchstones' which is really a good term for it. Something you can relate to, that gives you a rough sketch, a point of departure, etc.

Your imagination is going to fill in the gaps with what it knows and can relate to. And that is going to be material that you have seen or experienced somewhere in your life, whether in person, by photos, drawings, films, books, etc. This process is going on all the time anyway in fantasy literature whether you're conscious of it or not.
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Iliphar1
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 :  12:33:00  Show Profile  Visit Iliphar1's Homepage Send Iliphar1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
going back to what cultures seemed to have influenced various FR-countries:

I always imagined the Moonshae Islands to be close to C.S. Lewis' Narnia (even some names are similar, both have a high king, etc.)
Sembia reminds me be a lot of (machiavellian) Italy (with all the mercantile immensily powerful families)

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Faraer
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 :  16:53:00  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is that what Steven means? Ed is leery of resemblances to Earth precisely because he doesn't want players making assumptions of familiarity and so filling in wrong details.

The lands of the Ffolk as created by Doug Niles are straightforward quasi-Welsh and Irish -- that's where the names ('Caer' etc.) are from.
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Lemernis
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The FRIA shows a location on the coast of Amn called "Kalathtyr" It's at the mouth of the River Specie, where the nothern slopes of the Small Teeth mountains meet the sea. I can't find any information on this location (including a search of these forums). Anyone know what it is? Where canon material on it may be found?
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George Krashos
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I think Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II has info on this place. If I'm wrong, a plethora of loremasters will be along directly to point you in thw right direction (and make me sheepish at the same time ...)

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The Sage
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No, George is right. VGtBGII is pretty much it for sources on Kalathyr.

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nbnmare
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Yep, it's on p.52.

As a quick overview, it's a fishing village of "mold-reeking huts on stilts", and home to two dozen families.
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Lemernis
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Um, I'm not sure how to get a hold of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II... Anyone mind sharing what info is available re: the Battlescarred Bard and Kalathtyr? If not I'll see if I can get my hands on it some way. (It's not a matter of cost, I'm just assuming that it's no longer in print.)
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis

Um, I'm not sure how to get a hold of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II...



eBay, RPGNow.com, or NobleKnight.com are likely your best bets. Oddly, this one doesn't appear to be available as a pdf.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis

Anyone mind sharing what info is available re: the Battlescarred Bard...
And unfortunately the Bard isn't detailed in any other resource covering the region. Your best bet is to pick up a copy of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II.

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Lemernis
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Okay, I see that it is still out there in book form at least. tnx :)
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Hello folks! So, I'm a few years late to the game but I've been using the Lands of Intrigue Boxed Set for my campaign for years now.

I'm reading through all the replies here and it is so helpful to learn how other DMs used this info for their portrayals!

I have to ask, someone linked a Lands of Intrigue web expansion by WotC, but the link went dead (as did all those other wotc links).

Does anyone have a copy of this free web enhancement that they could share?
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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by DM_Djinn

Hello folks! So, I'm a few years late to the game but I've been using the Lands of Intrigue Boxed Set for my campaign for years now.

I'm reading through all the replies here and it is so helpful to learn how other DMs used this info for their portrayals!

I have to ask, someone linked a Lands of Intrigue web expansion by WotC, but the link went dead (as did all those other wotc links).

Does anyone have a copy of this free web enhancement that they could share?



There were two "web enhancements". A preview of LOI that contained some material that was subsequently edited out and a timeline that was handed out at GEN-CON. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send them through to you.

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Ooh and me pretty please George, i havent seen this scroll before i dont think.

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Krashos always has the hookups lol

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George Krashos
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I have a hard drive full of Realms crack.

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And i have a realms crack dependancy. When is it gen con time, i need my fix.

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