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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  22:21:02  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That link won't load.

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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  22:27:37  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All I can say is it works for me. Elaine Cunningham (or someone claiming to be her) wrote that Salvatore says bah-ENN-ray (which is not what I thought either).

Edited by - branmakmuffin on 11 Jun 2003 22:12:37
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Faraer
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  01:35:43  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's definitely Elaine. The as and es are all separate short vowels, so 'bah-EN-reh'.
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eilinel
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  12:53:23  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
just to say that if u take a dictionary and look for celtic, u will find this word comes from French and not Gaelic. Francs used to name Gaelic people celtics. Thats it. Don't say that gaelic comes from French, not at all. And since francs spoke a mix between their own langage, which comes from asia after 5 centuries of travel, and latin.
So Scottish use to say keltic people, yes, because they named them the kelters, which meant wearer of kilts, that Francs changed as Celts... or if u are more interested, just ask me.

and i say ba-en-ré in French even if its probably not the right way , is it like bah-en-reh for u or what?
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  13:35:22  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Normally I would have pronounced it - BAY-EN-RAY, although the proper pronunciation stated by Faraer, as 'bah-EN-reh' definitely matches more to how I actually thought it would be pronounced.

Besides on the post from the link Faraer supplied, Elaine Cunningham also basically stated that "All vowels short, accent on second syllable".

Makes sense to me .

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  16:04:15  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh well. I still like bane-REE, and I've been using that one for years. However, if I were the author, I'd want people to pronounce it the 'right' way, so I guess I could switch.

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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  22:17:34  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Faraer:
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It's definitely Elaine. The as and es are all separate short vowels, so 'bah-EN-reh'.

Actually, it's nothing to me one way or the other. If I meet someone on the 'net claiming to be such-and-such famous person, I'll take them at their word. If they're telling the truth, it's the polite thing to do (obviously, I guess ). If they're not telling the truth, it doesn't really affect me in any way. I'm never going to meet them. So, I don't know why I said "or someone claiming to be her". I violated my own credo (ouch).

Edited by - branmakmuffin on 11 Jun 2003 22:18:31
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Zireael
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  10:26:02  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Normally I would have pronounced it - BAY-EN-RAY, although the proper pronunciation stated by Faraer, as 'bah-EN-reh' definitely matches more to how I actually thought it would be pronounced.

Besides on the post from the link Faraer supplied, Elaine Cunningham also basically stated that "All vowels short, accent on second syllable".

Makes sense to me .

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Love the post. Took me a while to google it.

On topic (I apologize for resurrecting such an old topic) - does anyone know how to pronounce names from Baldur's Gate series?

Speaking of <ae>, why in drow it is (apparently) pronounced /aheh/, while in all other FR materials it's pronounced /ey/, as in /feyrun/...
Who came up with the FR pronunciation of <ae> as /ey/?

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Faraer
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  12:26:25  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed, whereas Baenre is Bob's name; and I wouldn't extend its pronunciation to drow in general. I think that's all there is to it.

Which Baldur's Gate names do you have in mind?
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Aulduron
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  18:48:09  Show Profile Send Aulduron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At least Jordan has a pronunciation guide at the back of each book.

Aoth is the latest name I've been wondering how to pronounce.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  19:00:25  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

Aoth is the latest name I've been wondering how to pronounce.


-I'd say it 'Ay-oth'.

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Aulduron
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  19:08:30  Show Profile Send Aulduron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Half the time my mind says Ay-oth, the other half it skips the A and says it Oth.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Submitted for your collective education- Baenre is actually (according to the "By Any Other Name: the Drow" name generator article in Dragon # 267, I believe it was) pronounced BANE-REH: "eh" like in pesto) and the article has a pronunciation guide, if memory serves. It also translates the meanings of both prefix and suffix name parts. There was also one in the 3.5 Drow of the Underdark book, with some of the same name parts, but with different meanings, and a small section on drow language. E is pronounced EE if there is an A or I before or after (as in Eilistraee, pronounced EEListrayEE) and EH if it is alone. I've done quite a bit of study into drow linguistics for some of my own tales, and for anyone interested in a full treatment, the drow translator on www.eilistraee.com has a complete dictionary/translator, with a pronunciation guied and grammar aid as well. One can soon be speaking fluent drow, with proper pronunciation with this little handy tool! (I occasionally curse at annoying customers in appropriately "colorful" drowish phrases, though always under my breath, of course....)

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Zireael
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Posted - 03 Mar 2012 :  15:34:52  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Submitted for your collective education- Baenre is actually (according to the "By Any Other Name: the Drow" name generator article in Dragon # 267, I believe it was) pronounced BANE-REH: "eh" like in pesto) and the article has a pronunciation guide, if memory serves. It also translates the meanings of both prefix and suffix name parts. There was also one in the 3.5 Drow of the Underdark book, with some of the same name parts, but with different meanings, and a small section on drow language. E is pronounced EE if there is an A or I before or after (as in Eilistraee, pronounced EEListrayEE) and EH if it is alone. I've done quite a bit of study into drow linguistics for some of my own tales, and for anyone interested in a full treatment, the drow translator on www.eilistraee.com has a complete dictionary/translator, with a pronunciation guied and grammar aid as well. One can soon be speaking fluent drow, with proper pronunciation with this little handy tool! (I occasionally curse at annoying customers in appropriately "colorful" drowish phrases, though always under my breath, of course....)



There is a pronunciation guide at www.eilistraee.com? I never noticed. Point me, please... as for the rest, I've been using the Chosen of Eilistraee dictionary for a long time.

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