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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 14 Jan 2021 :  01:45:33  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I haven't been able to find anything anywhere. Was the lineage of the Dukes listed anywhere in canon? Have any of their names been mentioned (besides Bevedaur)?

"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 14 Jan 2021 :  19:00:13  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since no one has said I have missed something in my research, Eric/George, do either of you have anything unofficial you can tell me? Specifically, what I am looking for is the naming scheme for the royal family of Cortryn. The official sources have it that the country was founded by a "noble family from Calimshan". Since Calimshan has a specific naming convention (xxxx yn xxxx el xxxx), I would think that the royal family of Cortryn would keep something similar. My idea is that, to differentiate themselves from their relations in Calimshan, they shortened it to just xxx el Cortryn (that may or may not be the family name with me leaning towards that it is not). That would make the canon named Bevedaur into Duke Bevedaur el Cortryn.

"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."

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George Krashos
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Posted - 16 Jan 2021 :  21:16:11  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It only lasted from 491 DR to 731 DR, so not the most notable of places. I've checked Steven Schend's LOI notes and there is nothing more than what has been published. So you have free rein to make up whatever you need. For what it's worth, I would have the family drop the Calimshan naming nomenclature when it assumes rule of Cortryn. Just like the Perry family did when it moved to Tethyr. This is especially so given their rule commences after the fall fo the Shoon. No one liked the Shoon.

-- George Krashos

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 16 Jan 2021 :  21:45:41  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you, George. Your feedback is always much appreciated. Since you have Steven's original notes, do you think the highlighted from the LOI (Book Two: Amn page 21) was added by an editor:

"Cortryn is founded by Tethyrian and Calishite immigrants and a powerful noble family of Calimshan to restore the Shoon Empire's lost glory. Cortryn absorbs and consolidates the bulk of the former realms of Valashar and Meiritin while extending its northern border up through the Troll Mountains. Eshpurta is founded as Cortryn#146;s northernmost city and fishing center."

That is the relevant entire entry for 491 DR on that page and would seem to indicate that they were admirers of Shoon. Also, their enslavement of the hin of Meritin would seem to also be an extension of the Shoon Empire's not so nice treatment of "indigenous populations". In some circles, the Ring of Eyes may have actually been viewed as the good guys for taking out the Duke of Cortryn.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 17 Jan 2021 :  09:46:14  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, that part was always there. Steven rarely got edited to add something. It was always to chop stuff out because he wrote loooooong.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 12 Feb 2021 :  20:25:49  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Ring of Eyes first appeared in Dragon #206, page 76.

Meiritin first appeared in Dragon #228, page 33.

I can't remember where Cortryn first appeared in print, but it was a one-liner in an Ed Greenwood article.

However, you may wish to read Grand History of the Realms, page 89, to learn the name of the founding family of Cortryn and its founder: Duke Kadar el Aktorral.

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Edited by - ericlboyd on 12 Feb 2021 20:26:41
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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 12 Feb 2021 :  23:29:17  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

The Ring of Eyes first appeared in Dragon #206, page 76.

Meiritin first appeared in Dragon #228, page 33.

I can't remember where Cortryn first appeared in print, but it was a one-liner in an Ed Greenwood article.

However, you may wish to read Grand History of the Realms, page 89, to learn the name of the founding family of Cortryn and its founder: Duke Kadar el Aktorral.

--Eric



Thank you very much, sir! That gives me just what I needed to give Iriaebor its very own Blair House (http://www.blairhouse.org). In Iriaebor's case, it will be known as The Court of the Countess. I can do a sidebar with its history.

"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."

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