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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  01:37:22  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Alrighty... I just read this book for the second time since I bought it in 1998, and I must say I forgot just how awesome it really is. After reading all the newer novels on Shadow Magic and the Shadow weave and Shades and all that jazz, I must say this book makes MUCH more sense now a second time around.

Does anyone even remember that all of Chessenta and Turmish and Chondath and Unther were under the shadow blight of the Mighty Artifact known as The Shadow Stone? I mean the Weave was almost entirely dead in these countries, and weave casters suffered greatly due to this powerful blight. Anyone tapping the power-source of the Shadow Stone automaticaly cast their spells from the shadow weave and were hence forth weilding shadow magic from then on. As a Major Shadow weave artifact I find it hard to believe that all of Faerun did not know of this, or even get a mention in the lore books or even TgHoTr or something. Now that shadow magic and the shadow weave is beginning to surface more commonly than it was on Faerun in the past, I wonder why the events that take place in the novel seem to have been entirely forgotten. Aeron Morieth... The Half elf Shadow Mage/adept should be a force to reckon with for both good and evil alike. Why hasn't Shar sent her Monks of the Dark Moon after him, or even her Shadow Mage-killers to seek him out and try to destroy him or something?

Anyway... GREAT BOOK INDEED!!! Totally worth a second read and it ties in very nice with events that take place toward the end of Pre-spellplague Faerun.

Any comments and opinions are welcomed. Thanks.
CEV ;)

jornan
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  03:16:21  Show Profile  Click to see jornan's MSN Messenger address Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps this book didn't get as much Campaign Setting nods, because, as I understand it, The Shadow Stone was originally written for the Birthright Campaign setting and then had a place/name overhaul to port it into the FR at the last miinute.

I do remmeber enjoying this book though and would like to revisit it sometime in the future as well.
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  04:34:29  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jornan

Perhaps this book didn't get as much Campaign Setting nods, because, as I understand it, The Shadow Stone was originally written for the Birthright Campaign setting and then had a place/name overhaul to port it into the FR at the last miinute.

I do remmeber enjoying this book though and would like to revisit it sometime in the future as well.



I would highly suggest you do give it another read. I was actually amazed at how much more everything fits in now that so many other Shadow Weave fluff and books have come out. You'll thank me. Plus Aeron Rocks. :)
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  04:36:09  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would have preferred that it remain part of the Birthright World...

Not because I don't like the Shades in the Forgotten Realms...just because I loved Rich Baker's Birthright.

AD&D for me!
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  07:40:54  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

I would have preferred that it remain part of the Birthright World...

Not because I don't like the Shades in the Forgotten Realms...just because I loved Rich Baker's Birthright.



There were no Shades or Shadovar in this novel... well, kinda... it's hard to explain unless you just read it again.
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wwwwwww
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  14:18:55  Show Profile  Visit wwwwwww's Homepage Send wwwwwww a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Shadow Stone is a great book. The port to FR was done very well as it feels like a Realms book.

I haven't purchased an FR novel in years, but there are some real gems in their older catalog, and this is one of them.
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  20:20:23  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wwwwwww

The Shadow Stone is a great book. The port to FR was done very well as it feels like a Realms book.

I haven't purchased an FR novel in years, but there are some real gems in their older catalog, and this is one of them.

I agree entirely! It feels very much like a Realms book should. That's why I'm soooooo shocked that Aeron Morieth and a major shadow artifact such as The Shadow Stone get no mention at all.
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  21:04:48  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Ebon Flame! The First Immaskari? Shouldn't that put him up there with Elminster and Telemont Tanthul? Does anyone know of any other source of info on the Shadow Stone? I heard rumore that it gets mentioned in detail in the three 3.5ED super adventures that deal with Shar and Shadow Weave that came out like 2 years ago. Is this true?

Thanks. CEV ;)
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Icelander
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Posted - 27 Aug 2010 :  02:27:04  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To anyone who has read the novel in question, when, in Forgotten Realms chronology, was Turmish, Chondath, Chessenta (presumably including Threskel) and Unther under this shadow blight? And for how long?

My campaign involves these nations quite intimately and this seems like something I should at least give a contiuity nod towards.

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Ruul
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Posted - 27 Aug 2010 :  13:16:15  Show Profile  Visit Ruul's Homepage  Send Ruul an AOL message Send Ruul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe it mentions in the novel somewhere the Year of the Helm.
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 28 Aug 2010 :  05:01:27  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's like 1371 or 1372.DR
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 :  02:04:05  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My bad... FrCs 3.5ED says on page 182 that it was 1370DR ;)
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scererar
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one of my favorite realms novels. I also liked the alternate spellbook format of having spells written on sticks.

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Icelander
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 :  03:12:19  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

My bad... FrCs 3.5ED says on page 182 that it was 1370DR ;)


Thank you.

And did this effect last for seconds, minutes, hours, days, tendays, months or years?

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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 13 Sep 2010 :  01:38:25  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Icelander

quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

My bad... FrCs 3.5ED says on page 182 that it was 1370DR ;)


Thank you.

And did this effect last for seconds, minutes, hours, days, tendays, months or years?

It lasted for months! Weave spells were much harder to cast, crops and water and all manner of vegetation were being blighted. The Shadow Stone would have had The Shadow Weave as the sole means to cast spells in that entire part of the world.
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Ranak
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 :  05:30:21  Show Profile  Visit Ranak's Homepage Send Ranak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately for me, I read Shadow Stone shortly after reading Harry Potter. It reminded me too much of Hogwarts, the rival students, young student not accepted ends up confronting great evil. Of course they were written in vastly different styles. I think I would have enjoyed it more if I had read it in 1998.
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Darsson Spellmaker
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 :  05:36:42  Show Profile Send Darsson Spellmaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

Aeron Morieth... The Half elf Shadow Mage/adept should be a force to reckon with for both good and evil alike. Why hasn't Shar sent her Monks of the Dark Moon after him, or even her Shadow Mage-killers to seek him out and try to destroy him or something?



I can't recall if it was in Magic of Faerun or Lords of Darkness or some other game product, but I remember reading somewhere that Shar specifically forbade her servants from harming Aeron in any way because she sensed he still had some part to play in the future, some mysterious destiny that had yet to be revealed. Also, the FRCS mentioned Aeron as being a (N male half-elf wizard 13/shadow adept 3), making him very powerful for his age.

"Know, O mages, that there is learning, and there is wisdom, and they are very far from being the same thing."--Azuth the High One, Utterances from the Altar: Collected Verbal Manifestations of the Divine and Most Holy Lord of Spells (holy chapbook, assembled by anonymous priests of Azuth circa 1358 DR)
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Dennis
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I have not yet read this book. (My current list of Novels To Read is pretty much long.) But I am curious, is the effect of the Shadow Stone more catastrophic than the Shadowstorm, which in Paul's book of the same title turns all things to shadow caricatures of themselves and dampens all kinds of Weave-based and priestly spells?


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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 15 May 2018 :  17:43:17  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I have not yet read this book. (My current list of Novels To Read is pretty much long.) But I am curious, is the effect of the Shadow Stone more catastrophic than the Shadowstorm, which in Paul's book of the same title turns all things to shadow caricatures of themselves and dampens all kinds of Weave-based and priestly spells?





It was getting up there in stature to the Shadowstorm indeed. The Shadow Stone if I'm not mistaken was just a piece of a larger Stone of shadow and a Legendary artifact!!
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 May 2018 :  19:58:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some serious thread necromancy, here... Dennis hasn't visited our halls in about 4 years.

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goblins
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Some serious thread necromancy, here... Dennis hasn't visited our halls in about 4 years.



I was wondering what the etiquette was here. If a poster wants to discuss a novel, should they search for an existing thread and bump it? Regardless of the age? Thanks.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by goblins

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Some serious thread necromancy, here... Dennis hasn't visited our halls in about 4 years.



I was wondering what the etiquette was here. If a poster wants to discuss a novel, should they search for an existing thread and bump it? Regardless of the age? Thanks.



There's no real hard and fast rule, though there is a preference towards reviving threads as appropriate.

My comment was more about replying to something said 8 years previously. There's not a lot of people here now that were here then, though there are some.

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George Krashos
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Yep, a few.

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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 16 May 2018 :  02:44:39  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, my bad.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 May 2018 :  03:24:21  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire

Sorry, my bad.



No worries. I was making an observation, no more.

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