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Delwa
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  20:02:15  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Can be found here. It came up in my News Feed on Facebook and I thought I'd share. I haven't finished reading it, so can't comment more. Enjoy!

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Kentinal
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  20:35:51  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well there is a point of light in a very dark city.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Irennan
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  20:51:14  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice to see that they are putting out at least some info on the 5e FR. They should do more of those, tho. Like waaay more, if we are to get a picture of the post-Sundering Realms through that.

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/

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Delwa
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  21:30:30  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree they should do more, and I expect there to be more. It seems they are only giving the bare minimum needed to run the adventures and expecting the DM to come up with his own material or do research via the FR Wiki, this forum, or the older books available as PDFs.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  22:51:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So... The Shades leveled Zhentil Keep because they were irked that the Zhents worked with the phaerimm. Later, the ruler of Phlan slays one of the princes of Shade... and Shade lets this slide.

Huh?

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Delwa
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  23:04:35  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

So... The Shades leveled Zhentil Keep because they were irked that the Zhents worked with the phaerimm. Later, the ruler of Phlan slays one of the princes of Shade... and Shade lets this slide.

Huh?



I did find that confusing. It makes me wonder what powers were in play that aren't mentioned that would cause Shade to stay its hand. Or, were the Zhents merely seen as a significant threat and Phlan for some reason was not?
Tis a puzzlement.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  23:26:38  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe the shades leadership really did not like that one prince and did not care he failed and died? *shrugs*

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Delwa
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  23:33:11  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was my thought. I know in one of the recent scrolls here we tallied what Shade Princes were still unaccounted for after the Sundering novels. I need to find that and see if I can narrow down which Prince it was. I believe there are only one or two possibilities.

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"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  00:13:21  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Hatemaster" is a title now? Ugh.

I'm not familiar with the whole Tyranny storyline yet (who the heck is the D&D Adventurers League?) but from reading the linked page I got the impression that the fey in the Quivering Forest were responsible for the survival of Cvaal and Phlan. Hopefully that part is explained somewhere because it's a big hole in the story otherwise.

quote:

Forging an alliance with the fey of the nearby Quivering Forest, Phlan was spared from the destruction that came to Zhentil Keep and the Citadel of the Raven at the hands of the Netherese.


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Delwa
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  00:16:17  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Adventurers League is the Official Organized Play group for WotC.

- Delwa Aunglor of Tangled Trees
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Brian R. James
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  02:15:17  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some of the lore prior to 1480 DR is from Monument of the Ancients or timeline tweets I made at the time. Everything after is news to me.

I didn't name the Shade vs. Zhentil Keep the Shadowbane War, because that would be silly repurpose of Erik Scott de Bie's signature character. Phlan did seek protection from fey (just fey, not dark fey) in the Quivering Forest, but the Black Fist slaying a Shade prince is news to me.

It's so surreal seeing your work transform at the behest of other designers.

@Xaeyruudh Hatemaster was a title granted to individuals of certain rank in the priesthood of Iyachtu Xvim [Faiths & Avatars p.83]

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  03:42:41  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooh, thanks Brian. I missed that reference. It makes sense for followers of Xvim, where it seems weird for Zhentilar commanders and worse for Zhentarim.

Googling hatemaster gives me Power Rangers pages. /facepalm.

And I can only imagine how weird/frustrating (and in some cases infuriating amirite?) it must feel sending something in and then seeing it come back completely different. I've heard about actors saying similar things... they don't always even know how the movies they're in are going to play out until they see them in theatres.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  05:20:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh



Googling hatemaster gives me Power Rangers pages. /facepalm.


That's not so bad, if it includes the Pink Ranger from the 90s. I had a thing for her, back in the day... My little brother and I both had an interest in the Power Rangers, but for very different reasons!

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  06:53:32  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Insight into our favorite giant space hamster... or ammo for endless teasing... either way, it's good to know.
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Ayrik
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Please dont bring Power Rangers into the Realms. The last thing we need is Shadovar vs Megazords, or badly dubbed villains cursing at Phlan (and deploying a gargantuan monster every week) from their hidden base on the moon.

Eat lots of garlic - it keeps the elves and vampires away.
Don't stick your sword into dragons, you just don't know where they've been.
Avoid stepping on halflings. They stick to your boots, will smell awful, and are impossible to scrape off.
Ah, of course. Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Oct 2014 :  23:35:33  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

Please dont bring Power Rangers into the Realms. The last thing we need is Shadovar vs Megazords, or badly dubbed villains cursing at Phlan (and deploying a gargantuan monster every week) from their hidden base on the moon.



I thought that was the plot of the next RSE...

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Matt James
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Posted - 17 Oct 2014 :  19:29:09  Show Profile  Visit Matt James's Homepage Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh this is hilarious. Ector Brahms is a character Brian played as a kid.
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Delwa
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Posted - 17 Oct 2014 :  19:33:54  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

Oh this is hilarious. Ector Brahms is a character Brian played as a kid.


That is amusing. No other similarities besides name I trust?

- Delwa Aunglor of Tangled Trees
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Matt James
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Posted - 17 Oct 2014 :  19:40:52  Show Profile  Visit Matt James's Homepage Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The good thing is that the lore Brian and I wrote in Monument of the Ancients was included in this write-up. So, they did not retcon what we had done with the region (yay!).

It's funny because Ector had a small role in the adventure we wrote, so it's cool they picked up on it and now he's a cool bad guy. He -was- a good paladin, but it makes sense that he could have become corrupt over time.

All in all, it's just a cool little finding :)
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Delwa
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Posted - 17 Oct 2014 :  19:43:22  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is awesome! I'm going to have to do some more reading on the area in current day. Thanks!

- Delwa Aunglor of Tangled Trees
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus

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