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Man-of-Fur
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Canada
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Posted - 23 Oct 2018 :  23:53:35  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello Candlekeep!
I wanted to drop in and mention that the Forgotten Realms Archives Facebook group has just reached 10,000 Members!
Huzzah, woot and woo-who!
Join us in group for our two week celebration including 10 Days of Giveaways and fun events, in addition to our regular scheduled content!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheForgottenRealmsArchives/

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...

Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  02:12:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just be aware that members of that Facebook group have to be very, very careful with expressing any negative opinions, especially if they run counter to the prevailing conversation. I ran afoul of this and my comments were deleted, and I was temporarily suspended -- all without warning. It's why I am no longer part of the group.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 24 Oct 2018 02:24:11
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  03:22:47  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That happened to me on the "Sages of Toril-Forgotten Realms" group. Suspended without being told why. I left. Much as I enjoy the Forgotten Realms Archives page, if they did that to me without explanation I'd also leave.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  05:06:16  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They like their little fiefdom. Must be nice being an internet bad-ass :P
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31591 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  05:30:57  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To be fair, 10,000 members is an accomplishment -- and it's far more than we have. So despite my own experiences with the group, they must be doing something right.

And giveaways are always nice -- I kinda want to go back just to see the giveaways.

Aside from the over-reaction of that one moderator, my time in that group was mostly unremarkable. I didn't participate much, because most of the activity there was not of interest to me -- I usually skimmed over the feed, looking for items of interest, then wandered to other points on the Facebook.

The only real negativity was that one time -- but that was enough for me.

Honestly, it reminds me of the old WotC forums, when I was active there: a lot of activity, some real gems here and there, and at least one unfortunately overzealous moderator.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 24 Oct 2018 05:31:26
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TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  07:35:21  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

To be fair, 10,000 members is an accomplishment -- and it's far more than we have. So despite my own experiences with the group, they must be doing something right.

Like being on a platform where membership is a matter of one click and sockpuppets are ever plentiful?

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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USA
31591 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  09:58:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

To be fair, 10,000 members is an accomplishment -- and it's far more than we have. So despite my own experiences with the group, they must be doing something right.

Like being on a platform where membership is a matter of one click and sockpuppets are ever plentiful?



If there were widespread issues with the group, people would leave. I know from experience it's just as easy, if not easier, to leave a group.

I will say that I've heard that other people have had issues with the moderation there, but I can only report on my own experiences.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 24 Oct 2018 10:04:04
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Seravin
Senior Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  15:04:12  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I express criticsm there often enough (as I do here) but always try to do so in a respectful way to any of the content creators and the people with differing opinions in the group. I can easily see how a moderator (as a human) could view a criticism of a favoured piece of work as an attack on them personally and overreact accordingly. That sucks Wooly, you're always very fair here in your comments and your moderating.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31591 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  15:56:59  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

I express criticsm there often enough (as I do here) but always try to do so in a respectful way to any of the content creators and the people with differing opinions in the group. I can easily see how a moderator (as a human) could view a criticism of a favoured piece of work as an attack on them personally and overreact accordingly. That sucks Wooly, you're always very fair here in your comments and your moderating.



And the hell of it was, the comments I made there were some of the exact same ones I've made here. But even though I gave very specific reasons -- and several of them -- for why I dislike the War of the Spider Queen books, it was judged "bashing" and I was suspended without the courtesy of a warning or anything, and the moderator ignored me when I reached out to him.

The gross overreaction was what pushed me away. If there had been a simple "hey, can you cool it?" message or anything beforehand, or if the mod had bothered to respond to me and tried to work something out, that would have been another story. Instead, I was ignored -- and I've been told that the mod in question made very dismissive comments about the whole thing to the other mods of the group. I cannot verify this, but given the way I was treated, I find it plausible.

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Caolin
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691 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  17:17:28  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm just surprised that people continue to use Facebook.
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Brimstone
Great Reader

USA
3029 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2018 :  18:07:59  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You "Criticized" the Drow, Wooly. That is a big no-no. *Wags Finger around*

I mostly lurk. You want to see train-wreck, go check out the BIG D&D 5E Group.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Misereor
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Posted - 25 Oct 2018 :  10:46:08  Show Profile Send Misereor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

If there were widespread issues with the group, people would leave. I know from experience it's just as easy, if not easier, to leave a group.


<compliment of the day>
Not likely to happen with Candlekeep.
Of all FR sites I've seen, Candlekeep has by far the the highest level of quality. Polite users, a minimum of spam, and some real grognards. You are not easily replaced (or even supplemented).
</compliment>

What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder, stronger, in a later edition.
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Alaundo
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Admin

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 25 Oct 2018 :  14:51:12  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Misereor

quote:

If there were widespread issues with the group, people would leave. I know from experience it's just as easy, if not easier, to leave a group.


<compliment of the day>
Not likely to happen with Candlekeep.
Of all FR sites I've seen, Candlekeep has by far the the highest level of quality. Polite users, a minimum of spam, and some real grognards. You are not easily replaced (or even supplemented).
</compliment>




Well met

Thank ye for the kind comments, Misereor. I'm glad thy stay herein is a pleasant one

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TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Oct 2018 :  17:41:05  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

If there were widespread issues with the group, people would leave. I know from experience it's just as easy, if not easier, to leave a group.
I will say that I've heard that other people have had issues with the moderation there, but I can only report on my own experiences.

My point is, in that context "membership" number simply doesn't mean the same, it's "apples and grapes" comparison.
Also, inactive members and accounts that took it for disguise obviously won't have much issues with moderation.
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And the hell of it was, the comments I made there were some of the exact same ones I've made here. But even though I gave very specific reasons -- and several of them -- for why I dislike the War of the Spider Queen books, it was judged "bashing" and I was suspended without the courtesy of a warning or anything, and the moderator ignored me when I reached out to him.

But at least there's still The Piazza... Oh, right.

quote:
Originally posted by Misereor

<compliment of the day>
Not likely to happen with Candlekeep.

Not with the current admins, yeah. But then, this sort of thing often happens not with the original admins, but after some sort of a soft coup.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31591 Posts

Posted - 25 Oct 2018 :  19:09:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And the hell of it was, the comments I made there were some of the exact same ones I've made here. But even though I gave very specific reasons -- and several of them -- for why I dislike the War of the Spider Queen books, it was judged "bashing" and I was suspended without the courtesy of a warning or anything, and the moderator ignored me when I reached out to him.

But at least there's still The Piazza... Oh, right.




I only went to that site a couple of times, so I'm not reading what you're saying, here.

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CorellonsDevout
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USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2018 :  01:58:40  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am a member of both, and I have had my positive and negative experience on both. But overall, my experiences have been positive. The FRA has really grown, and it is another place to interact with FR fans.

Sweet water and light laughter
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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USA
31591 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2018 :  02:55:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I am a member of both, and I have had my positive and negative experience on both. But overall, my experiences have been positive. The FRA has really grown, and it is another place to interact with FR fans.



And that's a fair assessment. It just wasn't the kind of community that I prefer -- and I'm not saying that in any negative context; among other things, I prefer not to have quite so much activity to try to wade through. I likely would have remained there, mostly as a lurker, had it not been for that one incident.

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CorellonsDevout
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USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2018 :  03:24:28  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Different modes work for different people. FRA is where I get most of my FR interactions these days, other than here. I know there are plenty of forums out there I am not a part of lol.

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