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dorn
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Posted - 05 Apr 2006 :  16:01:08  Show Profile  Visit dorn's Homepage Send dorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all,

Reading up about the uthgardt tribes and its mentioned in various places that the tribes seem to change throughout time. There are 9 or so now but some have become lost, and some may return (probably only those with surviving totem beasts).

Does anyone know the names/creatures of some of those tribes which are not currently existing?

Cheers lads and ladies

Murray Leeder
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Posted - 05 Apr 2006 :  18:43:16  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The two lost tribes are the Red Ponies and the Golden Eagles. Both became grimlocks and now live in a place called (I believe) the Cavern of Cloven Heads.

That's in addition to the Blues Bear tribe, who appear to be completely extinct (sort of), killed off in the destruction of Hellgate Keep and its aftermath. In Son of Thunder, I reveal one survivor, one who left the tribe some time before its ruin.

Edited by - Murray Leeder on 05 Apr 2006 18:45:33
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dorn
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Posted - 06 Apr 2006 :  13:54:09  Show Profile  Visit dorn's Homepage Send dorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice one. Thanks for the info Murray. Much appreciated.

I've seen reference to there sometimes being more than 10 sometines being less. How do you see that happening? (if it was inf fact canon) A tribless family finds and worships a totem beast such as the golden eagles (giant?)/red ponies?......or there are other great beasts that uthgar conquered/allied with that we do not yet know about.

Hazard a guess mate? :)
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  01:27:49  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder

The two lost tribes are the Red Ponies and the Golden Eagles. Both became grimlocks and now live in a place called (I believe) the Cavern of Cloven Heads.



This is correct, as noted in DDGttU.

However, if I had it to do over again (i.e. a suggestion for your campaign), I'd consider "underfolk" from Races of Destiny instead.

--Eric

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dorn
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  03:53:57  Show Profile  Visit dorn's Homepage Send dorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*nods* Yes it would seem that underfolk are more appropriate as they are humans...but only if we think of normal evolution i guess. After 1200 years (mid 500s about right since they fled beneath the One Stone?) down there the wierd magic of the underdark could have mutated them into non-human grimlocks.

Another quick question. In terms of making a 'Champion of Uthgar'. What's your thoughts on the build/PrCs etc? I'm almost thinking you wouldn't have a champion of uthgar as they venerate him through the totem beasts. SO you'd have a champion of the beast adopting similar traits to the animal as well.....rather than only to uthgar himself.
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Kajehase
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  11:03:28  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, Uthgar himself is a Barbarian/Ranger 20/20. So how about using that for a "build," and have the totem-animal as animal companion? (Although, in the case of the Thunderbeast tribe this could be a problem *grins*

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Arivia
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  11:06:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
*looks at post* Sweet Sune! I found a use for the deity-stats!!



HERETIC! BLASPHEMER! *runs out of breath from all the cursing*

Additionally, the totem barbarian from Unearthed Arcana[also available here] fits Uthgardt very well, IMO.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

*looks at post* Sweet Sune! I found a use for the deity-stats!!



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Barastir
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There is any further lore about how the two Lost Tribes of the Uthgar went underground and turned themselves into grimlocks? And why two of the three tribes that went underground were from the same ancestral mound, but only the Sky Pony didn't descend into the Underdark?

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Let your deeds speak your intentions.
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Edited by - Barastir on 15 Mar 2011 10:55:18
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Cards77
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*casts raise thread* Sorry but maybe Barastir's inquiry didn't get noticed. Valid questions all. This would be one of those areas where the existing lore could be expanded upon and the missing bits fleshed out.
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Wooly Rupert
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I am not aware of any such lore, myself...

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George Krashos
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Posted - 29 Oct 2014 :  00:05:23  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

There is any further lore about how the two Lost Tribes of the Uthgar went underground and turned themselves into grimlocks? And why two of the three tribes that went underground were from the same ancestral mound, but only the Sky Pony didn't descend into the Underdark?



Not yet, but I suspect Eric and I will dabble on this topic and the Uthgardt in general some time next year.

-- George Krashos

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Barastir
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Posted - 30 Oct 2014 :  13:51:32  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Not yet, but I suspect Eric and I will dabble on this topic and the Uthgardt in general some time next year.

-- George Krashos


Cool, let us know!

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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