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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 18 Dec 2002 :  12:44:31  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Fellow sages, who can enlighten me on the topic of lady Dragonbreast's illness. The lady Dragonbreast is the ruler of Berdusk, that well-known stronghold of those who harp...

I have been trying to find some more references to her situation but untill now have been unsuccesful in locating the right tomes and scrolls...

Lord Rad
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Posted - 18 Dec 2002 :  14:40:13  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mumadar, which is your source which mentions details of this? I must say im not familiar with Lady Dragonbreasts illness at all .....but it sounds intriguing.

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Edited by - Lord Rad on 18 Dec 2002 14:43:08
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 18 Dec 2002 :  14:47:16  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just of the top of my head, I believe there's a little snippet in the FRCS on Berdusk where it says that she is recovering from an illness...

The only 'canon' resource that I can think of which might have some more details is one of the last FR products for 2nd Edition: Cloak and Dagger by Eric L Boyd e.a.

Edited by - Mumadar Ibn Huzal on 18 Dec 2002 14:47:51
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 18 Dec 2002 :  14:52:13  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting! ill take a look at that later. I doubt there will be any updated information on the current situation.

One of the items on my wish list for WotC to produce always contained a yearly journal for FR, like a list of each month and details of the various events for that particular Realms year. Anyway, I dont wanna go off topic

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 18 Dec 2002 :  15:09:56  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While on the topic, if anyone knows where additional information on Berdusk can be found, I'd like to hear, especially any novels which contain some detail on the city.

I know of the following sources:
  • Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3e)
  • Code of the Harpers (2e)
  • Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e)
  • Cloak & Dagger (2e)
  • A Grand Tour of the Realms (2e)


Non of these sources (with the possible exception of Cloak & Dagger) contain a reference to Lady Dragonbreast's condition as far as I know.
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Rellen Amostirren
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Posted - 29 Dec 2002 :  23:16:29  Show Profile  Visit Rellen Amostirren's Homepage Send Rellen Amostirren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Knowing nothing of the dear lady's condition, I can though point you in the direction of the Guidebook "Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast", which contains quite a large write up on Berdusk. Though sadly little information on Lady Dragonbreast.


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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 30 Dec 2002 :  19:33:23  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Rellen, I have indeed gone through said book (it's the basis for the Twilight Dawn Campaign), but no reference to the lady's condition was mentioned herein... nor any foreshadowing to the future...
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 12 Feb 2003 :  12:58:56  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Funny that no-one else seems to know what has befallen the ruler of Berdusk... Any change that the FR authors which visit the site would know a little more?

Edited by - Mumadar Ibn Huzal on 12 Feb 2003 12:59:25
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 17 Jan 2004 :  16:39:19  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm... almost a year ago since the last activation of this little thread... Anyhow, since there are a lot more scribes in the keep these days, I'd like to ask the question again:

quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

Fellow sages, who can enlighten me on the topic of lady Dragonbreast's illness. The lady Dragonbreast is the ruler of Berdusk, that well-known stronghold of those who harp...

I have been trying to find some more references to her situation but untill now have been unsuccesful in locating the right tomes and scrolls...


Edited by - Mumadar Ibn Huzal on 17 Jan 2004 16:39:46
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  06:19:56  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm...this is certainly a difficult piece of information to track down. Other than the source you have already mentioned Mumadar, I can only remember a snippet in one of the very first Perilous Gateways articles from WotC (which didn't contain any new information that we didn't already know). There's virtually nothing written in any of the 3e regional sourcebooks so far, and except for Cloak and Dagger, nothing solid in 2e.

Maybe Faraer has something on this...I would suggest perhaps, that you should email him about it...

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  10:00:01  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

...I would suggest perhaps, that you should email him about it...



..and return here with what you have learnt, forthwith...of course!

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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  13:31:26  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, of course...Sorry about that Rad ...But then, I guess that's what Learned Scribes are for...

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 18 Jan 2004 :  13:53:31  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would not have any objections against proposed communciations method, though which pigeon am I to use to dispatch the message?

- in other words, I can't find the e-mail address for said scribe
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  00:59:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't worry about it too much then Mumadar. Faraer usually checks in every few days or so, I wouldn't be surprised if the next reply after mine is from him...

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Cyric
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  12:04:49  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is she a harper ?
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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  02:06:51  Show Profile  Visit Maecenus of Westgate's Homepage Send Maecenus of Westgate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A harper she is. In fact, if i'm not mistaken I think I read somewhere (or derived) that she was betrothed to Belhuar Thantarth of Twilight Hall...speaking of which, both of these characters played a role in my last campaign. An event took place where the characters found themselves in the midst of an assassination attempt on Cylyria Dragonbreast by a Shadow Thief agent named Kanvartu.

I'm currently revising some of this campaign material if anyone has any more info on Berdusk and these two harpers.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  23:14:42  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maecenus!!! havent seen u in a while

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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  19:12:12  Show Profile  Visit Maecenus of Westgate's Homepage Send Maecenus of Westgate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage

Maecenus!!! havent seen u in a while



Oh, i've been around...
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Faraer
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  19:57:37  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This isn't something that rings a bell, but I'm not all that well up on the 1370s DR.
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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  13:59:01  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm...

Which period of FR history are you 'up' on then Faraer...?



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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 05 Jan 2005 :  19:23:53  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm... I still haven't found out anything more regarding Lady Dragonbreast's current condition. Although as hinted at in the Questions for Ed Greenwood 2005 thread, I have a feeling that old age might be part of the mystery...
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Kentinal
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Posted - 05 Jan 2005 :  19:48:24  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Lady Dragonbreast is ill – allegedly by poisoning or magic – the illness started not long after a small delegation from Waterdeep led by Khelben Arunsun paid a visit to Berdusk and Lady Dragonbreast. "

Alas not much to find I fear.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 06 Jan 2005 :  00:05:54  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, maybe Steven Schend can chime in on this one - given that he's the one who created this plot development for his Moonstars in "Cloak & Dagger". Steven?

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 06 Jan 2005 :  22:41:52  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Hmm, maybe Steven Schend can chime in on this one - given that he's the one who created this plot development for his Moonstars in "Cloak & Dagger". Steven?

-- George Krashos



And all my aging brain is coming up with right now is that I got the plot thread with Cylyria from Ed while we were conjuring up the plot threads on C&D. I know you were a part of the discussions on the Zhentarim-a-go-go plots with Manshoon and Fzoul; I don't recall if we looped you in to discussions on the Tel'teukiira or not.

Long and short of it, she's not been healthy for a long time and she seems to have been subject to lots of either manipulation or news is actively being kept from her. Think of Theoden's situation under Grima Wormtongue for a good example of the situation as it seems from my vantage point (and for lack of a better example, other than Woodrow Wilson's 2nd term in office).

Hope this helps.

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 06 Jan 2005 :  22:49:54  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It does, and it is similar to what I had in mind after puzling on the situation.

As quoted above by Kentinal, the fact that she's rumored to have gone ill after a visit of the Blackstaff, followed by the split in the Harpers - a prevalent rumor in my PbeM campaign IS linking these two together...

Guess we'll have to wait and see what follow-up products will bring. I don't suspect the new Waterdeep book will shed a whole lot of light on this - it'll probably only touch upon the Tel'teukira if at all.
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cpthero2
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Posted - 06 Oct 2018 :  13:54:10  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Master Mumadar Ibn Huzal,

I thought it was an attack, that was not determined to be caused by Khelben and/or Laerel, but some unknown assailant?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

It does, and it is similar to what I had in mind after puzling on the situation.

As quoted above by Kentinal, the fact that she's rumored to have gone ill after a visit of the Blackstaff, followed by the split in the Harpers - a prevalent rumor in my PbeM campaign IS linking these two together...

Guess we'll have to wait and see what follow-up products will bring. I don't suspect the new Waterdeep book will shed a whole lot of light on this - it'll probably only touch upon the Tel'teukira if at all.


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