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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 25 Mar 2019 : 19:50:59
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Can someone fill me in a tad on the current clack of Ravenloft, as far as 5e lore is concerned? I haven’t bought (yet) the Strahd book and to be 100% honest, my knowledge of Ravenloft stops at 2e.
Some sample questions of what I don’t know and would like to...
Is Barovia canonically a part of the Realms in the past now?
What’s the status of Castle Spulzeer?
Does Ravenloft still officially have domains from everywhere? I believe it’s part of the Shadowfell now?
What domains are Realms?
What’s the best official source of information on Ravenloft in general that isn’t the Strahd book?
Edit: Derp, a quick Google search netted me this info. It answers about half my questions. Is there more? https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ravenloft
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Edited by - Seethyr on 25 Mar 2019 19:54:27
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Mar 2019 : 11:30:25
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| I've stopped at 2e as well, and so I can't help much. But since you are speaking of a link between Ravenloft and the Realms, maybe you should know that there is a permanent portal to the Demiplane of Dread which is not mentioned in the article above. In fact, it took me many years (too many) to discover this piece of lore: it is located in the Greycloak Hills, near to Evereska. |
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 28 Mar 2019 : 21:39:16
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| STrahd is not part of the Realms, but like all of Ravenloft and the Planes in general it is accessible from the Realms. As near as I can tell, Ravenloft is still many realms. SPulzeer is whatever you want. I doubt they will update anytime soon if ever. |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Mar 2019 : 22:21:34
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Very interesting. And the portal thing seems a little odd to me as far as lore from 2e goes (unless it’s one way). One thing I remember clearly was that it was supposed to be very difficult to get out of the Domain of Dread.
I have always thought that creating a hombrew domain would be a fun thing to do. I need to do a bit more research. |
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 00:17:39
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In the new lore (post 4e) Ravenloft's Domains of Dread are part of the Shadowfell, and so are conected to all the worlds of the Prime. So Barovia is still part of Greyhawk or whatever world was its original home, but now is part of the Shadowfell and thus conected to all worlds of the multiverse, including the Realms.
Besides Curse of Strahd, Fair Barovia (Dungeon 207, IIRC) is another good source of info about current day Barovia.
I guess that there is also a bit of info in Gloomwrought, the Shadowfell and Beyond, but I'm not sure, so let me check. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 00:54:51
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Ed did a cool story about Volo visiting Ravenloft in digital Dragon when "Curse of Strahd" was released. They are definitely connected.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 02:51:42
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Originally posted by Zeromaru X
In the new lore (post 4e) Ravenloft's Domains of Dread are part of the Shadowfell, and so are conected to all the worlds of the Prime. So Barovia is still part of Greyhawk or whatever world was its original home, but now is part of the Shadowfell and thus conected to all worlds of the multiverse, including the Realms.
It was already connected to all the worlds of the multiverse, in 2E -- the Mists could even reach into Wildspace. |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 03:07:09
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| Are the Domains still incredibly difficult to reach, or is it just a part of the Shadowfell now that you can mosey on over to? How about leaving it or traveling between domains? |
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 03:29:56
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Originally posted by Seethyr
Are the Domains still incredibly difficult to reach, or is it just a part of the Shadowfell now that you can mosey on over to? How about leaving it or traveling between domains?
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 04:29:11
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Originally posted by Seethyr
Are the Domains still incredibly difficult to reach, or is it just a part of the Shadowfell now that you can mosey on over to? How about leaving it or traveling between domains?
Still difficult to reach, as you need to be in places where the Shadowfell bleed into the Material world and are also within the reach of a given domain of dread.
If you're within the Shadowfell, then is easy to spot them, they are behind a wall of mist. Their location isn't fixed though, as nothing in the Shadowfell really is fixed; the nature of the plane doesn't really allow that (as it reflects the whole Prime, not only a single world). The domains are rather like demiplanes within the Shadowfell.
If you're trapped by the mist, you're in the domain. Leaving it is as difficult as usual. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 29 Mar 2019 : 12:18:40
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Originally posted by Seethyr
Very interesting. And the portal thing seems a little odd to me as far as lore from 2e goes (unless it’s one way).
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It's one way, for sure. Forgot to mention, but then again, I think it was obvious to me.  |
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Owesstaer
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Apr 2019 : 08:49:07
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Originally posted by Barastir
I've stopped at 2e as well, and so I can't help much. But since you are speaking of a link between Ravenloft and the Realms, maybe you should know that there is a permanent portal to the Demiplane of Dread which is not mentioned in the article above. In fact, it took me many years (too many) to discover this piece of lore: it is located in the Greycloak Hills, near to Evereska.
Do you, by chance, remember where this information came from. I have my PCs en route for Evereska just now, and was planning something in the direction of a banshee-meeting in the Greycloaks. A Ravenloft link would be more than welcome, as 3 out of my 4 players do not really know RL as of yet >:-> |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Apr 2019 : 16:07:43
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Originally posted by Owesstaer
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Originally posted by Barastir
I've stopped at 2e as well, and so I can't help much. But since you are speaking of a link between Ravenloft and the Realms, maybe you should know that there is a permanent portal to the Demiplane of Dread which is not mentioned in the article above. In fact, it took me many years (too many) to discover this piece of lore: it is located in the Greycloak Hills, near to Evereska.
Do you, by chance, remember where this information came from. I have my PCs en route for Evereska just now, and was planning something in the direction of a banshee-meeting in the Greycloaks. A Ravenloft link would be more than welcome, as 3 out of my 4 players do not really know RL as of yet >:->
Page 11 from the original Realm of Terror boxed set: "In the Forgotten Realms, there is a gate in the Greycloak hills, on the western edge of the Anauroch desert. According to rumor, a pit somewhere in these hills leads to Ravenloft."
Also, from the same page: "According to legend, a few permanent gates or portals also lead to the demiplane. Most portals exist in the prime material plane, where they are rare and well hidden. Some open or exist only at certain times or when certain circumstances are true. Most appear to lead into the Misty Border. All are one-way gates. Each permanent gate provides an entrance to Ravenloft, but none provides an escape."
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 14 Apr 2019 : 18:40:45
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Gary Dallison
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Apr 2019 : 01:45:54
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Now I have a clue to what evil George once mentioned was lurking beneath the greycloak hills and what the elves where trying to keep people from releasing
Portals generally don't lurk, and a one-way trip into Ravenloft is hardly something that could be released.
Besides, we already know what the elves are guarding, there: the crypt of Hssthak.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 15 Apr 2019 : 01:51:05
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Now I have a clue to what evil George once mentioned was lurking beneath the greycloak hills and what the elves where trying to keep people from releasing
Hmmm, good point. How many pits do we know of around the realms?
There's Narathmault/Dun-Tharos
There's the Dark Pit of Maleficence near Peleverai that held Gargauth
There's in theory some other Pit of sorts beneath the Conjurer's Tower in Impiltur (Dun-Orthass)
There's apparently a pit beneath the Greycloak Hills with a link to Ravenloft and possibly other dangers
Athamault or "the iron pit" was an ilythiiri place somewhere near the Lake of Steam
There was the Pit of Ghaunadaur near Waterdeep
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