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Bragi
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 Posted - 17 Jan 2020 : 06:19:59
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I'm not sure if you missed the updates but I edited it shortly after posting it and came to the same conclusions that you did.
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Hi Bragi
Looks like you are using the Brian James "off the internet" Grand History of the Realms which in the proto-Realms contained much lore of his own creation. Not all of that lore transitioned into the published Grand History of the Realms (ala the tarrasque stuff you reference) and so has no "official" status.
Yes exactly that's why I said the relationship will be identified as unofficial. Refer to my earlier post where I called it out more explicitly.
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Much of the information on the early human races comes from "A Grand History of the Forgotten Realms" by Brian R. James. This fan made material was the pre-cursor to the later "the Grand History of the Realms" and as such is not strictly cannon; however, it's probably as close to cannon as one can get.
I'll likely be referencing it more, both because I am a fan of his work and also because I have found it to be very useful on this topic. I consider it semi-cannonical. The materials have a slightly different name, "A Grand History..." vs "the Grand History"
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Similarly, I don't see how there is any relationship between the Rengarth and the Northmen. The Northmen mingled with Low Netherese refugees fleeing the fall of Netheril from 95 DR onwards to form the Uthgardt. The Rengarth occupied what is now southern Anauroch and likely became the precursors of the nomads in the Tunlands asthey fled south to avoid the encroaching desert that destroyed their grasslands.
I agree, that's the same conclusion that I came to when I posted it. I had in my chart a relationship between them and then when I did more research and wrote up the post realized there couldn't be relationship because of the timeline. That's why I posted that the relationship would be moved from the Northmen to the Mhairshaulk to give it a connection to the tarrasque. My point for posting the information on the Northmen was to show that the intial relationship in the chart had been disproven.
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This relationship will be moved from the Northmen #9 to the Mhairshaulk #2.
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Edited by - Bragi on 17 Jan 2020 06:22:30 |
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Bragi
Seeker
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jan 2020 : 07:14:30
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Relationship #10* Northmen to Angardt
This relationship will be moved to "Rengarth to Angardt". It will be identified as cannonical.
From Nethril Empire of Magic
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The Angardt tribes didn’t exist until 2477; before then, they were simply a faction of barbarians within the Rengarth who
weren’t as superstitious of magic use.
-1382 DR.
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Bragi of Erin |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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Bragi
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 18 Jan 2020 : 08:12:29
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(This is a placeholder - tbd)
Relationship #11 Northmen to Uthgardt
Forgotten Realms Boxed Set
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When the first civilized humans emigrated into the Savage North, they found the land already inhabited by humans. These were a
dark-haired, blue-eyed people, a large and hardy folk descended from savages, outcasts and refugees of Netheril, and early explorers.
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
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Posted - 24 Jan 2020 : 09:56:54
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| A well done chart, but I wonder, from were you got the connection of Shaaran peoples to Old Cormanthans, and Chondathans in general? I ask, as I'm myself in part interested, due it also fitting my theories about Talfir, Shaarans and Jaamdathi (which you also have), by seeing the Talfiric language (Telfir), is also a member of Akalaic family group (ie related to Shaaran). |
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Bragi
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Posted - 13 Apr 2024 : 07:55:06
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I hope to continue working on this in the future and am reflecting on your comments in light of the recently released lore video.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/mysterious-102218179?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=join_link
Knowing that both the Snow Elves and the Maraloi both worship Tarsellis Meunniduin and that the Maraloi have underground labyrinths, there is strong evidence that the two races are connected. It wouldn't surprise me if the elven migration followed the human migration or vice versa.
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Originally posted by sleyvas
SIDEBAR: FEY in Kara-Tur
I just found this reference in the Kara-Tur boxed set, and the part about iron being poisonous to this was something that rang to the idea of fey long ago being in Kara-Tur. I'm thinking possibly even some relation to the "snow elves" that eventually spread to Pasocada basin. Possibly even via the same paths that the Azuposi eventually follow?
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Human origins chart
