Author |
Topic |
|
Gelcur
Senior Scribe
499 Posts |
Posted - 13 Oct 2018 : 22:02:01
|
So I'm preparing to run Dragon Heist and was reviewing the Code Legal. When trying to understand the laws stance on murder I found it odd.
Now it is a crime against the citizens, here.
It used to be a crime against the city, here.
So is the new wording an important difference? What makes one a citizen of the city? I imagine if there were no change they would have copy pasted the old wording. Thoughts?
|
The party come to a town befallen by hysteria
Rogue: So what's in the general store? DM: What are you looking for? Rogue: Whatevers in the store. DM: Like what? Rogue: Everything. DM: There is a lot of stuff. Rogue: Is there a cart outside? DM: (rolls) Yes. Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good. |
|
TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
948 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2018 : 00:46:09
|
I noticed that too. At some point it obviously changed. In game, there was probably some bureaucratic or political reason to do so, which could be any number of things. Out of game, I'm guessing the current designers thought it odd and moved it. It really doesn't have a huge impact where it is. |
|
|
Gelcur
Senior Scribe
499 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2018 : 02:19:15
|
I imagine the original reasoning was that being deceased the murdered party could not seek justice themselves so the city would seek it for them. It just seems odd that assualt, blackmail, murder and magical influence all specify "against a citizen" where many of the others don't. Not sure if that is intentional and if so what defines a citizen of the city.
Glad I'm not the only one catching odd little things like this. |
The party come to a town befallen by hysteria
Rogue: So what's in the general store? DM: What are you looking for? Rogue: Whatevers in the store. DM: Like what? Rogue: Everything. DM: There is a lot of stuff. Rogue: Is there a cart outside? DM: (rolls) Yes. Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good. |
Edited by - Gelcur on 14 Oct 2018 04:24:11 |
|
|
Fineva
Seeker
Canada
79 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2018 : 05:35:42
|
My players wondered if they were from outside the city was it now open season on non citizens. Seems to defeat the purpose of a trade city. |
I" am Sathia of Orogoth |
|
|
sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11686 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2018 : 17:27:12
|
quote: Originally posted by Gelcur
I imagine the original reasoning was that being deceased the murdered party could not seek justice themselves so the city would seek it for them. It just seems odd that assualt, blackmail, murder and magical influence all specify "against a citizen" where many of the others don't. Not sure if that is intentional and if so what defines a citizen of the city.
Glad I'm not the only one catching odd little things like this.
What world are you from that being deceased prevents you from seeking justice? Dead people assaulting the living is just a fact of life.
|
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
|
|
moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2018 : 16:10:24
|
So what happens when a visiting Cormyrean duke is murdered in Waterdeep? He's not a Citizen of Waterdeep. He's just a visiting dignitary. So
. how is that prosecuted?
|
|
|
Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3736 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2018 : 16:47:52
|
quote: Originally posted by moonbeast
So what happens when a visiting Cormyrean duke is murdered in Waterdeep? He's not a Citizen of Waterdeep. He's just a visiting dignitary. So
. how is that prosecuted?
-Just like real life, I would assume. If the Cormyrian government presses the issue, the Waterdhavian government would either investigate it themselves and issue a punishment that appeases the Cormyrians, or maybe the Cormyrians investigate things and mete out a punishment themselves with the approval of the Waterdhavians. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn Vol. III- Spells of the Elves Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
|
|
Starshade
Learned Scribe
Norway
279 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2018 : 09:14:36
|
Tbh most likely just a mistake, unless they wants to imply murder is no longer seen as anything special. I'd assume a Lawyer would interpret that as murder is now seen as a less severe incident, and is now having reduced penalty. Most likely interpreting it as having had a social collapse of sort, civil war, maybe Waterdeep once burned down, etc. |
|
|
|
Topic |
|