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Grisix
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Posted - 22 Jun 2018 :  04:37:15  Show Profile  Visit Grisix's Homepage Send Grisix a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
There is a quote in the Mordenkainen Tome in the Evermeet chapter about this high mage, but I have a hard time finding more information about him.

Anyone knows if there is more lore information available about him, as he seems to have been possibly the second most important person after Alustriel in the development of Silverymoon.

Thanks for the help!

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Posted - 22 Jun 2018 :  05:05:13  Show Profile  Visit bloodtide_the_red's Homepage Send bloodtide_the_red a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He was a human that read and learned the magic of a Nether Scroll in Myth Drannor, was the first ruler of Silverymoon and created the Vault of Sages. This is all in the Silver Marches book. Also I think he gets a mention in the 3.5E campaign book and the old North boxed set. And the History of the Realms, of course.

I don't think there is all that much information about him.
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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 22 Jun 2018 :  07:04:01  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He's also in this edition of Mintiper's chapbook:

http://www.realmshelps.net/faerun/lore/mintiper/05.shtml
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Grisix
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Posted - 23 Jun 2018 :  05:03:35  Show Profile  Visit Grisix's Homepage Send Grisix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the pointers!

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 23 Jun 2018 :  21:49:24  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not a problem.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  04:58:12  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no more official lore on Ecamane other than a mention in the "Fall of Myth Drannor" accessory. Unofficially, his origins are ... interesting.

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Grisix
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  08:11:27  Show Profile  Visit Grisix's Homepage Send Grisix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

...Unofficially, his origins are ... interesting.

-- George Krashos



Such a tease!
I am interested to know more, unofficially

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George Krashos
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  09:21:54  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
His surname is a bit of a giveaway.

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  09:46:08  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And now I'm going to have to spend the next week searching through lore trying to decipher the mystery. Thank you George, I sincerely mean it because I do love searching through realmslore trying to decipher mysteries.

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Balmar Foghaven
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I wonder... has it anything to do with the Truesilver Cormyrean noble family?

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  11:45:26  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing it's the other way around.
I wonder is his surname that he is the true heir of something to do with silver (silverymoon perhaps)

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Gary Dallison
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Well the best I can come up with is Amedahast who perhaps didn't sacrifice herself after all.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Jun 2018 :  21:42:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking he was a Chosen.

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Gary Dallison
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Well my first thought was khelben but that was before the fall of myth drannor although him masquerading as other people is his things, I just think it's too early for him

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sleyvas
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Posted - 25 Jun 2018 :  00:05:24  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He was from Corymyr. He's taught by a moon elf named Deynriir "The Silver Sorcerer". He read a "nether scroll" while in Myth Drannor and it "turned his hair prematurely white". He then helped establish Silverymoon by building a school for mages and was its first ruler. He helped fight in the weeping war, during which he saved the "nameless chosen" and later he died destroying a portal to protect Silverymoon from the demons attacking Myth Drannor.


555 DR Year of Dances Perilous
Ecamane Truesilver is born in Suzail at the start of the year, and he and his parents arrive in Myth Drannor by the year’s end.

569 DR Year of Tumbled Bones
Ecamane Truesilver becomes an apprentice of Deynriir the Silver Sorcerer. Unknown to him at the time, Ecamane also secretly becomes an acolyte of Windsong Tower [–3095, 580] under his moon elf tutor.

580 DR Year of Loose Coins
Ecamane Truesilver becomes one of the first humans to learn of the transformed Nether Scrolls [–654, 1344] known as the Quess’Ar’Teranthvar and gain knowledge from them. After ten months of meditation, Ecamane leaves
Windsong Tower [569, 684], his hair prematurely white due to the magics and wisdom he gained from the artifact.

588 DR Year of Dragons Dawning
Ecamane Truesilver leaves Myth Drannor with comrades and pupils of his own to restore proper studies of magic to the Savage North and redeem the ill deeds of the Netherese archwizards of the past.

627 DR Year of the Bloodcrystals
Ecamane Truesilver and his nine apprentices arrive in Silverymoon [574, 637]. Claiming that five goddesses (Eldath, Mielikki, Lurue, Mystra, and Sehanine) drew them there, the mages create a school of magic patterned
on elf teachings.

637 DR Year of the Silver Sun
Ecamane Truesilver, a great teacher of magic, is elected High Mage (ruler) of Silverymoon [627, 659].

659 DR Year of the Hunting Ghosts
Tulrun, born Tallrunner Tigris of the Red Tiger tribe and later known as Tulrun of the Tent, is sent by Ecamane Truesilver to the Incanistaeum in Myth Drannor to study magic under the tutelage of the Seven Wizards.

— Thirty wizards from Myth Drannor and twenty wizards from elsewhere in the Realms migrate to Silverymoon [637, 694] and begin establishing its role as a sister city to Myth Drannor and a center of magical and mundane learning. This year is known as the Year of Mage’s Dawning in Silverymoon

712 DR Year of the Lost Lance
The Weeping War: The conflict continues through the year, resulting in the deaths of many heroes and many members of the Harpers at Twilight [449, 720]. There are four major campaigns this year, and Myth Drannor nearly
falls prey to the Army of Darkness.
— The Spiders’ Truce is established between the drow of House Dhuurniv and the elves of Cormanthyr against the Army of Darkness.
— The Nameless Chosen [464, 720] is transported to Silverymoon Pass by the Silversgate Portal in Myth Drannor while fighting the mezzoloth host of Cvor and is sorely wounded. He is saved only by the aid of Ecamane Truesilver and other wizard allies from the Gem of the North who destroy the remaining mezzoloths and transport the Nameless Chosen to Silverymoon [694, 719] for healing.
— Ecamane Truesilver destroys the portal to Myth Drannor created by the Battle of Silversgate to prevent any other fiends from being transported to Silverymoon Pass. The strain of doing so causes the death of the elderly and frail Ecamane. He is succeeded by his great-nephew and head apprentice Aglanthol the Red as High Mage of Silverymoon.

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sleyvas
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BTW, the person that's intriguing me after all this is Dornal Silverhand. What lore do we actually have on him other than what's in Seven Sisters? We know Silverhand tower is "near Neverwinter"... but do we have any idea where? Does it still stand? What do we know of the Silverhand family (besides the obvious seven)? Any chance he's still around as "the watcher"?

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Edited by - sleyvas on 25 Jun 2018 00:11:07
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A bit more on Ecamane, from Ed via THO:

quote:
Originally posted by forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14621&whichpage=39
". . . when Ecamane Truesilver studied the Quess'Ar'Teranthvar in Windsong Tower (my copy of GHotR places it in 580 DR), reportedly a complete set of fifty scrolls (all five chapters), which chapters of the scrolls did he study?"

Ed: All of them. He had Azuth assisting him in a complete walkthrough. Keeping him from insanity and overload, but leaving him like your average university student cramming through a difficult course: read everything, understood most of it - - but a year later, only a few "high points" stuck in his memory. The lasting benefits were breakthrough insights regarding those high points, and a half-remembered "ah, THIS way will probably work better . . . I seem to remember . . ." for the rest of it, when doing magical innovation.

"He spent ten months studying them and had his hair "aged white" from the magic and wisdom gained, but unless he had divine aid, he would have gone quite insane, no?"

Ed: Yes. Without divine aid, he would have gone quite insane. (For most mages, drooling, barking, wild behavior OBVIOUSLY insane. A rare few can still function, hiding their insanity from others for long periods - - and they of course become the most dangerous.)



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The Masked Mage
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I can't find where it is - maybe someone else can find it - but I thought there was a blurb about a wizard fitting his description looking for / finding a certain spell book and Alustriel being wanting any information people could give about that.
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Grisix
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Posted - 25 Jun 2018 :  07:33:19  Show Profile  Visit Grisix's Homepage Send Grisix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
...
659 DR Year of the Hunting Ghosts
Tulrun, born Tallrunner Tigris of the Red Tiger tribe and later known as Tulrun of the Tent, is sent by Ecamane Truesilver to the Incanistaeum in Myth Drannor to study magic under the tutelage of the Seven Wizards.
...


Tulrun finding a gold scroll (Nether Scroll?) near Beorunna's Well and bringing it to Ecamane may be an important aspect of him being sent to Incanistaeum.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm thinking he was a Chosen.


From what Ed mentioned in AJA's post, would he be a Chosen of Azuth if he was a Chosen?

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Posted - 25 Jun 2018 :  07:53:44  Show Profile  Visit Grisix's Homepage Send Grisix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

BTW, the person that's intriguing me after all this is Dornal Silverhand.


Looking around, I find this tidbit
"Dornal and Mystra/Elue were wed in the Year of Drifting Stars (760 DR)."
Ecamane's death would be in 712DR

What connection are you thinking about?


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quote:
Originally posted by Grisix

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm thinking he was a Chosen.


From what Ed mentioned in AJA's post, would he be a Chosen of Azuth if he was a Chosen?



Off the top of my head, I'm not recalling Azuth having any Chosen. I regard that as more of a Mystra thing, anyway.

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