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Mirtek
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Posted - 27 Jan 2018 :  09:57:05  Show Profile Send Mirtek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zeromaru X

This is not so accurate. While killing the comics of the Fantastic 4 killed the movie line as well
I don't think that is accurate. Most people who saw those movies or were in the target audience to potentielly see those movies have never ever read a F4 comic nor are they even aware whether those are still being published or have discontinued.

The F4 line failed because they were not good movies. The reboot failed because it was even worse. Simple as that.

Had they been later MCU quality movies, they would still be going strong with >90% of their audience completely unaware that the comic line has been ended.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Jan 2018 :  16:08:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mirtek

quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

This is not so accurate. While killing the comics of the Fantastic 4 killed the movie line as well
I don't think that is accurate. Most people who saw those movies or were in the target audience to potentielly see those movies have never ever read a F4 comic nor are they even aware whether those are still being published or have discontinued.

The F4 line failed because they were not good movies. The reboot failed because it was even worse. Simple as that.

Had they been later MCU quality movies, they would still be going strong with >90% of their audience completely unaware that the comic line has been ended.



Indeed. As I've said more than once, people who read for pleasure -- whether it's comic books, straight fiction, tie-in fiction, or anything else -- are the minority, when it comes to the movie-going public. A best-selling book can be one that sells just 10,000 copies -- if only 10,000 people see a movie, it'll be out on DVD in a month.

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Richard Lee Byers
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Posted - 27 Jan 2018 :  18:05:48  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The comments above are not wrong, but we can add that when evaluating whether to adapt written works, Hollywood does consider simple name recognition. For example, it's a plus if people recognize the name "Fantastic Four" whether or not anybody is currently reading the comics. Of course, if you invest money making movies that then bomb, perhaps that name recognition becomes less of a factor in your decision making thereafter.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2018 :  04:32:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

The comments above are not wrong, but we can add that when evaluating whether to adapt written works, Hollywood does consider simple name recognition. For example, it's a plus if people recognize the name "Fantastic Four" whether or not anybody is currently reading the comics. Of course, if you invest money making movies that then bomb, perhaps that name recognition becomes less of a factor in your decision making thereafter.



Agreed. In their endless quest to avoid any originality, Hollywood will certainly look at the popularity of any given thing before deciding to make a movie on it... So while a bestselling book isn't guaranteed to be a summer blockbuster movie, that bestselling book certainly has better odds than something no one has ever heard of.

Though it's not that popularity in one media means popularity in another -- it's that something that makes something popular in one media can often do the same in another.

The Fantastic Four comics have been around for decades, and it's because Marvel hit on a good formula for a superhero group. The failure of Hollywood to make that formula work for them is not related to the current sales of the comic.

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Spectralballoons
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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  12:31:35  Show Profile Send Spectralballoons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, Wh40k has replaced FR, as far as I'm concerned.
>They give their customers gaming material.
So does WoTC. There may be less material, but the average quality is better.
I'm skeptical with regards to whether a movie will actually happen. If it does, let's face it, it probably won't be decent.

Edited by - Spectralballoons on 02 Feb 2018 12:35:23
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