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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  15:36:03  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rangerstranger

H.P. Lovercraft



Hmm, haven't tried him yet.

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VikingLegion
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  19:54:11  Show Profile Send VikingLegion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rangerstranger

H.P. Lovercraft



Can't tell if serious or April Fools joke. Lovecraft is one of my favorites, but even I'll admit his style isn't for everyone. His writing was out-of-date even in his own time (1920s/30s I think is when he did the bulk of his writing), as he used a kind of purposeful archaism.

Then again, I really dig Arthur E. Howard's old Conan stories, so maybe I'm just born in the wrong time period.
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  20:03:47  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VikingLegion

quote:
Originally posted by rangerstranger

H.P. Lovercraft



Can't tell if serious or April Fools joke.



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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Apr 2015 :  20:08:42  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VikingLegion

quote:
Originally posted by rangerstranger

H.P. Lovercraft



Can't tell if serious or April Fools joke. Lovecraft is one of my favorites, but even I'll admit his style isn't for everyone. His writing was out-of-date even in his own time (1920s/30s I think is when he did the bulk of his writing), as he used a kind of purposeful archaism.

Then again, I really dig Arthur E. Howard's old Conan stories, so maybe I'm just born in the wrong time period.



My guess is that it's a typo, perhaps an errant autocorrect.

I've read some Lovecraft. Most of it doesn't work for me... I don't dislike it, I just don't see the big deal about it.

Some of the stories have been creepy... It makes me wonder if the stories had a greater impact in their era, and if the modern era has desensitized us, to some degree, or perhaps changed our perspectives on some things.

Not really looking for a debate on that; this really isn't the place for it. Just kind of a personal pondering on the author's popularity and my own thoughts on his material.

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mastermustard
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Posted - 02 Apr 2015 :  01:15:20  Show Profile Send mastermustard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RAS is a pretty decent/great author, in my opinion. If you can manage to write 20+ books focused on a single character and still keep readers flocking to you in droves, you're doing something right. -and I couldn't bring myself to hate the writing of anyone who has contributed to the Realms so profusely.


Stephen King however is fairly overrated.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Apr 2015 :  05:50:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Stephen King however is fairly overrated.



He's had some good stuff, and he's had some not-so-good stuff. I still really enjoy 'Salem's Lot, It, The Tommyknockers, and The Eyes of the Dragon.

Though I will admit that some of those books had unnecessary elements... Particularly It, which had gratuitous sex, profanity, and the run-on sentence from Hell. I've no objections to sex and profanity in stories, so long as they are appropriate to and help the story. In It, this was not always the case.

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rangerstranger
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Posted - 02 Apr 2015 :  18:33:46  Show Profile Send rangerstranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VikingLegion

quote:
Originally posted by rangerstranger

H.P. Lovercraft



Can't tell if serious or April Fools joke. Lovecraft is one of my favorites, but even I'll admit his style isn't for everyone. His writing was out-of-date even in his own time (1920s/30s I think is when he did the bulk of his writing), as he used a kind of purposeful archaism.

Then again, I really dig Arthur E. Howard's old Conan stories, so maybe I'm just born in the wrong time period.



Oh I was serious about H.P. Lovecraft. If I wanted to make a april fools joke I would have said L. Ron Hubbard.

Also please forgive my earlier type that Wooly pointed out.

I just never saw the big deal about the guy. Many of his stories were very much the same. Same plot points, same characters with different names. And then the Cthulhu Mythos, its a role playing game and somehow making it to the cover of a D&D book. I just don't understand how his stories have gone so far when they weren't really that good... at least in my opinion.

I think you mean Robert E. Howard when speaking of Conan. I have to agree, the Conan stories are quite good.
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Entromancer
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Posted - 06 Apr 2015 :  19:08:37  Show Profile Send Entromancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As far as killing characters in undignified fashion goes...Toll the Hounds.

I know GRRM gets a lot of word of mouth for being particularly ruthless, but I think Reaper'S Gale, Toll the Hounds, Dust of Dreams and The Crippled God have their share of scenes and developments that are more horrid than the Red Wedding. I responded pretty strongly to the Snake in Dust of Dreams, and the Forkrul Assail in TCG. Then Beak in Reaper's Gale and a few things in Toll the Hounds: Stony and Harlo, Challice D'Arle and Cutter, Rake and Dancer...the Bonehunters themselves.

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"Suffering builds character."--Talia Al Ghul
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Marc
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Posted - 06 Apr 2015 :  21:04:28  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hated Coltaine's and Trull's deaths

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 07 Apr 2015 :  14:53:29  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The fact that alot of these dead characters return sort of ruined the effect for me.

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idilippy
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Posted - 07 Apr 2015 :  15:35:52  Show Profile Send idilippy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by mastermustard

Stephen King however is fairly overrated.



He's had some good stuff, and he's had some not-so-good stuff. I still really enjoy 'Salem's Lot, It, The Tommyknockers, and The Eyes of the Dragon.

Though I will admit that some of those books had unnecessary elements... Particularly It, which had gratuitous sex, profanity, and the run-on sentence from Hell. I've no objections to sex and profanity in stories, so long as they are appropriate to and help the story. In It, this was not always the case.



Between The Stand, the Dark Tower books, Desperation, Salem's Lot, and his awesome Bachman stuff (Long Walk, Regulators), King will always have many places on my bookshelf. Even though I don't enjoy every single one of his books I think he's a talented writer.
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Entromancer
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Posted - 07 Apr 2015 :  17:08:07  Show Profile Send Entromancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Entreri: I didn't see the need for Iskar Jarak.

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GRYPHON
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There are good and bad points to them all. Too many to list either way...
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