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Sylrae
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 Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 20:52:12
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Is there anywhere with detailed information on the elven language? or is it just various words we have in the dictionary here, and the odd word that slipped by from novels, etc.
Drow words and Elven words are different yes? or is that just in some instances, like how drow don't have a word for friend(the closest equivalent is the word for ally)?
Is the drow language divergent enough to count as a separate language or is it just a dialect of elven?
Is there anywhere that details elven grammatical rules?
I know there are all these types of things for Tolkien's elvish (which has enough words that it can be used to talk about nonspecialized topics), but is there any amount of detail into Elven, particularly FR sources?
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Aug 2008 : 02:50:41
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It's a matter of fragmentary Elven words, phrases and sentences published here and there. Steven Schend compiled a lexicon to help write Cormanthyr and Fall of Myth Drannor, which was made available online; there have also been a few fan compilations, such as Dagniron's here. Ed Greenwood's somewhat developed elven language lore saw print piecemeal among other authors' ad hoc or considered inventions; for this and other reasons it's best to regard the published Elven corpus as including multiple dialects.
2E sources such as FOR2 The Drow of the Underdark, which includes a Drow vocabulary list, have Drow ('Deep Drow') and Elven as distinct languages, though 3E books have drow speaking Elven (and Undercommon) rather than their own tongue. However, much published Drow vocabulary attests that it's its own language. |
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Faraer
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Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 23:22:42
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| I forgot Ed's clarification on the separateness of the drow language, from 2005. Go here and search for "I believe that the language". |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Nov 2010 : 11:54:26
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| There is a list of canon elven words on Candlekeep. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 May 2015 : 06:17:08
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TBeholder
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Posted - 07 May 2015 : 16:26:10
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Originally posted by Sylrae
or is that just in some instances, like how drow don't have a word for friend(the closest equivalent is the word for ally)?
Yes, Salvatore's attempts at being So Deep and Philosophical are fairly amusing. For a while, anyway.
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Originally posted by Sylrae
Is the drow language divergent enough to count as a separate language or is it just a dialect of elven?
Basically, there are at very least two named ones.
- Deep Drow: modern, everyday language, somewhat bastardized with Underdark languages (and presumably tongues of Lower Planes)
- High Drow: old, now dead/sacral language.
They don't have enough in common for the drow who don't know it to understand either speech, writings or even some signs on High Drow. However, Deep Drow have significant overlap with Undercommon (the borrowing probably happened both ways)
High Drow may still have something in common with the old Elven. Which indeed also cannot be quite the same as modern Elven despite their horrid stagnation.
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Originally posted by Faraer
Ed's clarification on the separateness of the drow language, from 2005. Go here
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People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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Finglas Leaflock
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Posted - 11 May 2015 : 21:31:51
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