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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  22:52:56  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Okay, I'm re-reading some of my older FR books, hoping to recapture some of the magic that first drew me in.

I've started Once around the Realms, and it's not nearly as 'charming' as it was when I knew less.

Anyhow, everyone in the novel prays to 'Eo' -- is that a reference to Ao, and if so then why is he being referenced so often?!

So who is this, or why is it mispelled (repeatedly), and if it is merely Ao mispelled why is it that everyone in the Realms prays to this one being?

I understand the novel is supposed to be 'tongue-in-cheek', but this is just plain outright innacuracy.

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Edited by - Markustay on 09 Oct 2007 21:01:55

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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 :  23:57:55  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eo, Io, and Ao are old drinking buddies, right?

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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  00:27:23  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Eo, Io, and Ao are old drinking buddies, right?

I guess so...

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KnightErrantJR
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Of course, there are the lost brothers, Oo, Uo, and sometimes Yo.

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And let's not forget the demipower of Mishaps, Uh-oh.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Murray Leeder
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  01:28:28  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They're just big fans of Michael Jackson. Captain EO and all.
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quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder

They're just big fans of Michael Jackson. Captain EO and all.




See, I didn't know whether to make the Micheal Jackson joke or the vowel joke, so I have to thank Murray for having my back on this one . . .

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Jorkens
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Even getting irritated by Once Around the Realms is pointless. That book has very few redeeming qualities, even as satire.
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Probably good as a way to visit many of the realms in one book.

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WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.

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I can't remeber does the book also reference the Overgod most high...

EiEiO ???

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Eeeah Eeeeah Nyalartothep...

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 :  01:25:41  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.

Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History.

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.

Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History.



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Jorkens
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.

Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History.



Thank you very, very much .
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Wenin
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.



Do they have an actual published list?

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Yes, they do. See here.

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Markustay
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  21:01:01  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I finished it a few days ago.

I remember enjoying it the first time around, when I barely new much about the Realms. It didn't seem anywhere near as good now that I actually know stuff.

Anyhow, I got most of the (satirical) references, except the following. Any help on what they relate to?

Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.

Aleekhan and Sammhie - The two Khans from the Hordelands.

There are at least four normal sailing vessels named in the book - I was going to add them to our list of known FR ships, but should I bother if they aren't canon?

Also, I figured a way of 'fixing' a least a couple of the weird things in the book. Would that just be considered a total waste of time?

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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  21:27:31  Show Profile  Visit Caedwyr's Homepage Send Caedwyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.

Geronimo, a battle-cry used by paratroopers circa WWII. Sounds similar when you string all three names together.
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scererar
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I bought the book when it came out. I took it it as a spoof to serious realms lore with RW similarities. I remember one such comparision to the A-team. If I have to explain the A-team, I am getting way too old. it was entertaining for what it was.

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Markustay
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Never watched the A-team; not a single episode - EVER.

quote:
Originally posted by Caedwyr

quote:
Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.

Geronimo, a battle-cry used by paratroopers circa WWII. Sounds similar when you string all three names together.

OMG - that's awful!

Perhaps worse then the Fantasy Island and Gilligan's Island references.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  06:49:16  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ouf, I had forgotten about that one. I seem to remember that being the place where I degraded the book to dust collector.
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I vaguely recall Maztica being described like Fantasy Island...

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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  03:36:01  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Perhaps worse then the Fantasy Island and Gilligan's Island references.



Since you've read it recently, I seem to remember a Jaws reference as well, did I make that up? Almost as bad as Once Around the Realms was the ridiculos prologue to Realms of Magic, with Volo peddling his Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, the Revised, Authorized, & Expanded Edition to Justin Tyme. Silly, just plain silly.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

There are at least four normal sailing vessels named in the book - I was going to add them to our list of known FR ships, but should I bother if they aren't canon?

Also, I figured a way of 'fixing' a least a couple of the weird things in the book. Would that just be considered a total waste of time?



Personally, I try to pretend this book doesn't exist.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


Aleekhan and Sammhie - The two Khans from the Hordelands.


"Salaam aleikum" is an Islamic greeting that means "Peace be with you" or "Peace be upon you". Which it is depends on the translation; "aleikum" seems to have many variant spellings, as well.

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