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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2015 :  00:26:43  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elven artifacts are used to their hubris, and are therefor designed to 'look deeper'?

Other then that, I got nuthin'.

EDIT:Just thought of something - he was using something that either masked his alignment, or actually changed it (like that helm that switches your alignment). That could explain a lot.

Also, the type of Lich he is - having to 'take over' other people's bodies. It could be that there is a certain 'breaking in' period in which the other personality isn't completely submerged (for example, that could be when he first took over the Monk Ambuchar Devyam, and the Monk was able to resist him for a long time, hence his 'good days'.)

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 18 Aug 2015 00:31:31
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 19 Aug 2015 :  13:33:48  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've also thought of the "helm of opposite alignment", or of a similar effect cast or done by his consort Meilan. However, for what I read in the Kara-Tur box (I may be wrong), he was corrupted AFTER reigning for some time, but GHotR implies that his very ascencion was by defeating the empress which later would become the immortal of mercy...

EDIT: Mr. James, can you help us? If not, I think we might take this discussion elsewhere, no?

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)

Edited by - Barastir on 21 Aug 2015 01:18:06
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Bruce Donohue
Learned Scribe

Canada
129 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2015 :  10:20:36  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Brian, I was wondering the story your wrote in regards about Eilistraee and Vhaeraun that didn't get published in the Menzo box set, are you able to share it with us?
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Irennan
Great Reader

Italy
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Posted - 25 Aug 2015 :  18:11:10  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would be very interested in it too. However, as far as I know, it can't be shared, because WotC still owns the lore. We only know that the Masked Lady gave away her divinity in lifting Corellon's curse from her followers, and that caused Eilistraee and Vhaeraun to separate again and become archfey. They could still use the lore, saying that Eilistraee and Vhaeraun managed to recover their divinity during the Sundering, since they are now back.


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c1b3rshad3
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Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  01:46:12  Show Profile Send c1b3rshad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can you help me with a list of modules and works that have information on the Surague Escarpment in Thay? Thanks.
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The Masked Mage
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  12:43:13  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by c1b3rshad3

Can you help me with a list of modules and works that have information on the Surague Escarpment in Thay? Thanks.



Beyond books that include small descriptions of Thay & the Red Wizards (campaign settings, players guides etc.) for all things Thay, refer to:

Dreams of the Red Wizards
Old Empires
Spellbound
Lords of Darkness (3rd E, not Ref 5)
Unapproachable East

Also see
Red Magic (Novel)
Red Ambition (Short Story)
The Haunted Lands (Trilogy)
The Crimson Gold (Novel)
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The Masked Mage
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  13:01:11  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

I have a question about the Kara-Tur entries in The Grand History of the Realms. It seems, through what we see of emperor Tan Chin, that he was always evil, even returning as a lich. But the Kara-Tur: the Eastern Realms presents an apparently good warrior (owner of a powerful LG magic weapon) later corrupted by an evil, sorcerous wife. Which sources were used to write these new entries? If not you, which author should I ask for these write-ups?



Refer to FRA 1-3 for a LOT more about Tan Chin and Melian (including their stats in the present and Tan's diabolical plan to take over Shou Lung again.

Also, the history in Kara Tur: The Eastern Realms was a word for word recount of the history created by Tan's poet side kick... not sure if you can call it all truth without going back in time and seeing for yourself :).
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Zeromaru X
Senior Scribe

Colombia
685 Posts

Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  02:57:27  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, Brian. I saw your "A Temporal Chronology of the Primes", and I have to say that this is fantastic. I was wondering if there is no problem if I update it with my compilation of 4e PoL stuff.


Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...
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