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Dargoth
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 Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 08:12:07
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Just reading realms bestiary 1 and noticed that theres an Alias clone in Waterdeep
"A Lady of power in waterdeep"
Anyone have any further info on this Alias clone?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 08:21:32
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'Tis been a while since I've read it, though I believe the "Lady of some power..." reference comes from Song of the Saurials -- which was where that particular duplicate was originally named.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 11:08:20
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She wasn't named. At the end of Azure Bonds, when all the clones were first discovered, one is described as wearing the garb of a Waterdhavian courtesan. That's on pages 363-4.
Since there's no reason not to, I've always assumed the "lady of some power" and the courtesan were one in the same.
Me, I named her Sapphire and made her a psionicist; she's married to my fourth and final Lord of Waterdeep, a psionicist named Sierkan Dahl. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 11:13:06
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Originally posted by The Sage
'Tis been a while since I've read it, though I believe the "Lady of some power..." reference comes from Song of the Saurials -- which was were that particular duplicate was originally named.
That reference was indeed in Song of the Saurials. It was when Zhara was Alias how she and Akabar had met some of the other Alias clones. It's page 193, where five of the clones are mentioned: a sage in Candlekeep, a mage in Immersea (Cat), an eastern warrior (the possible ninja), a thief who was murdered (Jade More), and a "lady of some power in Waterdeep" (the courtesan?).
However, as I noted above, it wasn't the first reference (unless there's two Alias clones in Waterdeep). |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 12:48:36
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Hmm interesting I thought Eric might have "outed her" in City of Splendors but I guess shes a blank slate
12 Biers + Alias
Alias the fighter
Jade the Thief (deceased)
Cat Wyvernspur (Wizard)
"One wearing the heavy armour of Mulhorand" (Paladin?)
"Waterdeep Courtsean" (Aristocrat?)
Moonshae Druid
"Eastern Ninja"
Zhara a Cleric of Tymora
Leaves 5 unlisted
by the way did we ever find out what Phalse really was? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 14:49:49
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Well, Eric couldn't catch every stray reference to Waterdeep, although it would have been "cool" to have included her. Maybe next time.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 15:24:01
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Hmm interesting I thought Eric might have "outed her" in City of Splendors but I guess shes a blank slate
I had planned on it, but then I ran out of room.
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by the way did we ever find out what Phalse really was?
I think it was stated in the books that he was a demon. There might also be a brief write-up in FR7 - Hall of Heroes.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 15:51:13
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Hmm interesting I thought Eric might have "outed her" in City of Splendors but I guess shes a blank slate
12 Biers + Alias
Alias the fighter
Jade the Thief (deceased)
Cat Wyvernspur (Wizard)
"One wearing the heavy armour of Mulhorand" (Paladin?)
"Waterdeep Courtsean" (Aristocrat?)
Moonshae Druid
"Eastern Ninja"
Zhara a Cleric of Tymora
Leaves 5 unlisted
There was also the Candlekeep sage, and the one from the far north.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 15:55:27
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Dargoth
by the way did we ever find out what Phalse really was?
I think it was stated in the books that he was a demon. There might also be a brief write-up in FR7 - Hall of Heroes.
--Eric
Hall of Heroes tells us that Phalse was in fact the demon that Cassana was originally trying to contact.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 17:16:13
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Hmm interesting I thought Eric might have "outed her" in City of Splendors but I guess shes a blank slate
I had planned on it, but then I ran out of room.
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I'm glad you didn't, since I'm using her in my next Lord of Waterdeep article... 
Can you tell us what you had planned for her? |
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 12 Apr 2007 : 00:39:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Can you tell us what you had planned for her?
I didn't get very far beyond "wife of a prominent noble". Hadn't decided which one yet. I considered finding one of the older lords mentioned in Steven's Waterdeep boxed set, having the older wife die and having the Alias clone be a much younger second wife.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Apr 2007 : 02:23:57
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Can you tell us what you had planned for her?
I didn't get very far beyond "wife of a prominent noble". Hadn't decided which one yet. I considered finding one of the older lords mentioned in Steven's Waterdeep boxed set, having the older wife die and having the Alias clone be a much younger second wife.
--Eric
Well, my version of her is married to a man in his fifties... But he's not a noble. He owns a nice jewelry store, though. |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 12 Apr 2007 : 03:41:20
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| Anyone else think that the ECL adjustment needs to changed +1 seems a to low for a template that creates a character that has 17 for every stat (or the equivelant of 72 point buy) |
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TomCosta
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Posted - 12 Apr 2007 : 22:16:41
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Apr 2007 : 01:08:47
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Re: The ECL. I revised them in Bestiary 2.
Ah thanks Tom
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Seismo
Acolyte
New Zealand
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Posted - 14 Apr 2007 : 07:54:20
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 14 Apr 2007 : 13:33:50
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| Very little. Presumably she feels the same way about him she did in the books -- having a very challenging father-daughter relationship where the father is not particularly available on an emotional level and the daughter has responded by mostly closing herself off -- and I would guess has a hard time seeing him or treating him as a god. That said, they are probably both maturing and developing a more adult parent-child relationship, as when things ended they're relationship seemed to be thawing. How much for these two stubborn beings, is anyone's guess. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 14 Apr 2007 : 14:25:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Can you tell us what you had planned for her?
I didn't get very far beyond "wife of a prominent noble". Hadn't decided which one yet. I considered finding one of the older lords mentioned in Steven's Waterdeep boxed set, having the older wife die and having the Alias clone be a much younger second wife.
--Eric
Well, my version of her is married to a man in his fifties... But he's not a noble. He owns a nice jewelry store, though.
Is there any chance we'll be seeing this published at Candlekeep, Wooly?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Apr 2007 : 16:12:28
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Can you tell us what you had planned for her?
I didn't get very far beyond "wife of a prominent noble". Hadn't decided which one yet. I considered finding one of the older lords mentioned in Steven's Waterdeep boxed set, having the older wife die and having the Alias clone be a much younger second wife.
--Eric
Well, my version of her is married to a man in his fifties... But he's not a noble. He owns a nice jewelry store, though.
Is there any chance we'll be seeing this published at Candlekeep, Wooly?
Yup, as soon as the next Compendium comes out. Though I don't really focus on the Alias clone, since it wasn't her tale I was telling. |
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