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HarperRanger
Acolyte
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 Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 04:11:23
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Ok, I started reading the Elminster series. I've read all the R.A. Drizzt books, the Avatar series, WotSQ, Daughter of the drow and so on but I hadn't read the El series yet so...
Here's my confusion. What the heck happenned between El in Myth Drannor and Temptation?
I'm not looking for spoilers. What I want to know is are there books that explain the gap in time between those 2 books?
Now there are a couple series I have not read like the Mythal series and a couple others. I can't keep up but I have read quite a few of the FR novels but I'm stumped on this one.
HR
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 04:33:56
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HarperRanger
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 11:51:27
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yep. i want to know what happenned inbetween myth drannor and the silent years? if it comes up in El in Hell, cool. but I feel like i'm missing something inbetween those 2 books.
They cast this big ol spell at the end of myth, then EL ends up under some rock in the beginning of temptation? i don't get it...
HR
P.S. I hope I didn't give anything away with the way I phrased that... |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 15:16:01
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We're all hoping Ed will get the chance to write more books that "fill in the gaps" in Elminster's Saga.
The problem is WotC's packaging of the books. They are not, and never have been, a neat chronological series the way Bob's Drizzt books have become (trilogy, followed by trilogy, followed by trilogy; I say "become" because even Bob "went back in time" to write a trilogy set BEFORE the one first published). Ed has always been so busy with a desk-full of Realms projects that he's written books covering "key" events or times Elminster was involved in, and not even all that many of those.
So you're not missing any books. Yet. I hope one day that books from Ed's pen will appear to fill those gaps. All of the series you listed in the second sentence of your post were PLANNED and written as coherent chronological series. If Ed tried to cover Elminster the same way, we'd be looking at a string of about six hundred novels (hope you have a lot of time to sit and read  ).
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 18:32:00
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| Yeah, I'm fairly certain that the Elminster series isn't supposed to be a hard-and-fast biography of Elminster, although I certainly agree that more stories about his earlier adventures would be welcome. |
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HarperRanger
Acolyte
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 02:51:52
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*bows to the Lady Herald*
Thanks for the info guys.
So besides pooring over all Ed's Realm's Lore, is there a novel that details the Fall of Myth Drannor? I remember the old 2nd ED. MD box set. My old DM ran few campains there and used parts of the "wild magic" concept in his own world (I hated him for that). But I don't remember if the box set included the history and reason for the Fall.
I know the Last Mythal series details the Elves return to MD but I haven't read that yet. That comes after the El series:)
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 02:57:45
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| Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves and the Fall of Myth Drannor sourcebooks are the two best sources for Cormanthyr and it's fall. The second module/sourcebook contains detailed info on who died in which battle, dates, etc. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 02:58:44
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Originally posted by HarperRanger
*bows to the Lady Herald*
Thanks for the info guys.
So besides pooring over all Ed's Realm's Lore, is there a novel that details the Fall of Myth Drannor?
No novel, but there is a sourcebook for it (maybe Wooly can get us the link? ). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 03:07:04
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Originally posted by Kuje
Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves and the Fall of Myth Drannor sourcebooks are the two best sources for Cormanthyr and it's fall. The second module/sourcebook contains detailed info on who died in which battle, dates, etc.
Lost Empires of Faerūn has the odd few tidbits as well.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 03:09:18
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves and the Fall of Myth Drannor sourcebooks are the two best sources for Cormanthyr and it's fall. The second module/sourcebook contains detailed info on who died in which battle, dates, etc.
Lost Empires of Faerūn has the odd few tidbits as well.
Nod, but it's not detailed like it is in the Fall sourcebook. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 10:24:18
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
If Ed tried to cover Elminster the same way, we'd be looking at a string of about six hundred novels (hope you have a lot of time to sit and read ).
And this is even more true of the Realms generally: the sources as a whole give us a strong picture of the overall pattern and frame of the Faerūn, enough to know how very little we know of what exists and what happens each year via the novels and other sources. The Elminster novels -- all Realms novels -- are pinprick 'highlights' from a vastly greater multidimensional tapestry. This bears stating and restating.
I'd argue that Fall of Myth Drannor *is* a novel -- just outside the conventions of modern commercial fiction -- and a good one. |
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